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hi everyone and welcome to the inventors
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Launchpad Network I am Carmen danesco
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with me I have mr. JD Huebner from go
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big go bold IP and we are going to do
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another episode of this awesome show we
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get a lot of listeners we get a lot of
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questions in we cover a lot of topics
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and today we're gonna kind of shoot from
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the hip because it was a lot of
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different topics that we talked about
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and a lot of specific stuff but before
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earlier before we started the show we
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were like well let's see well let's
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let's grab some questions that people
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sent in and then we'll see where they're
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where they take us but let me check in
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with JD hey man can you hear me yep I
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sure am i coming through yeah yeah doing
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good man I see you're a little bit
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mobile today you go out you're out
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cruising the neighborhood yeah I'm
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actually at one of our Everett
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Washington sites I mean a couple of
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inventors up here nakta some time to
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time come out you know get out of the
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office and stretch my legs a little bit
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come out to the on-site companies and
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locations where they're at one of the
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cool things about in a virtual firm and
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have an attorneys all over the country
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we've got the ability to be on-site and
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sort of be like a you know in-house
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counsel if you will to some of these
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technology companies so they've allowed
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me to work out of this room just to do
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this call that's pretty cool you know
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yeah besides the mobility that you have
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you guys are always you know people
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think that when they start a business I
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don't want to say P some people think
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that when they start a business you know
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they just sit back and people come in
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their office but I mean you are a busy
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office you're nationwide you're all
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we're play but you're still out going
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out visiting places doing things I mean
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you're always going you're always doing
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stuff on the road you're doing events
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you're speaking out you're doing don't
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donating your time I mean is that
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something that you know again that you
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like to do or you feel you have to do or
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is there kind of like a mixture of both
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and it's mixture of oh let's come on I
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mean for me and not all attorneys so
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they you know it's sort of this beyond a
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business kind of thing where it is a
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calling you know to be in the legal
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field and to educate to give access to
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justice to give
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knowledge to those that just don't have
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it and I do I love giving information
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like that to inventors of all walks and
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whether they're know if they're in some
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spot that's a little bit out of the
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downtown area and that's all they can
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get to you know they're working all
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other hours I want to get to those
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people because I think everybody has got
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an inventive bone in them and a creative
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aspect in an outlet and I want to go to
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give them that the knowledge the real
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facts and the law about how to get
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started a lot of people just confused or
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scared about how to get started and in
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the patent process and my goal is to
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really dispel a lot of those fears to
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get people out there moving to tell them
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yeah you can do this if you got a half
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hour a day or an hour a day you can get
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this ball rolling here are some tools
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here's here's a free book let's talk for
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half hour and now I'm not gonna charge
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you for it yeah you know the good thing
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about it is it seems like and it might
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not be the first time you're there or if
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you go back and speak again you know
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they have to get to know you they have
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to trust you that to like know trust you
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before they go and you know it could be
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their their lifelong dream they'll get
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this product on the market and they they
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may be fearful of telling you anyone
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even though you're an attorney and
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you're bound not to steal their idea but
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you know it takes time I mean and that's
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one of the great things about what you
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do is that you're out there you're
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constantly trying to not only build on
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your knowledge your experience but
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you're trying to help people no matter
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where they are and it's it's important
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that you do that I love that about how
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you conduct your business yeah thank you
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very much I mean it's um it's a huge
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endeavor to convey that when you're
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doing video or phone right and so we
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make sure we bundle a lot of information
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we give we have our potential clients
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those that we speak with over the phone
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and through video conferencing sign a
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confidentiality agreement even though we
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there's no need for it it's a good kind
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of a rest assured you know the least
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have something in writing that states
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are or what we're bound to well
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obligated to as attorneys and there's
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patent attorneys and but in person I
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mean it's actually a lot easier you know
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in someone's seeing you face to
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like I'm an attorney this is
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confidential that I okay no big deal
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like there's a little bit more trust
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there because you're in the flash so
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that's why it's actually pretty fun to
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go out and meet people and see people in
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person you know we don't that's never
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gonna go away the people personal aspect
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of this business any business so we're
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still feeling it out as a virtual firm
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there's you know it's gonna evolve we're
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gonna get better and better but this is
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always a real important part of our our
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practice that's gonna be very personal
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to everybody yeah are you still doing
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now your YouTube quick yeah yeah we're
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doing the bold Today Show it's still out
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and about and it's kind of taken over I
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mean it is our YouTube channel
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take it over I mean it's it's building
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some esteem we're getting it out it's in
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different ways we're learning YouTube to
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be frank it's just it's it's a beast
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like a lot of things you get in order to
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do it right you've got to learn gotta
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learn and so we're figuring that out and
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it's figuring how to convert and how to
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make sure we're communicating you know
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getting people to ask questions you know
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there's a lot of a lot of service
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providers kind of have that issue where
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it's good content but engagement there's
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really where it's at so it's fun it's
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for Brad so you can go to youtube search
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for the bold Today Show you'll find it
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it's a it's a daily Monday through
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Friday I'd be one every single day it's
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usually three to five minutes I just did
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a session about our frequently asked
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questions so I give you really straight
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answers to you know some of the tough
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questions that we get you know yeah in
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our firm there there's no there's no
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gray hair you know until we get a lot of
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questions that a you guys are young so
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what's the deal can you really pull this
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off and I gave some really good answers
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as to why I think it's you know
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compelling to work with someone that's
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fresh out of school that's gonna go get
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to work for you that gets technology has
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recent experience with with with the law
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and with education academic academic and
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also the technology too so yeah I mean
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it's it's good so the video helps me
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kind of stay on my toes
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make sure I know the law I mean it's
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sort of silly but as an attorney you
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you've got a job of course to practice
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law but it's your job to know the law
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and and law changes so you've got to
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read cases you've got to actually
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understand how things are looking what
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the how to make recommendations how to
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get it opinions today that you know I
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mean that actually would have given a
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different opinion even a month ago so
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that's that it's that important that's
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why you know we're we're sought out why
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patent attorneys really have that higher
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regard is because we're not only some of
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those can help you craft your your
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patent application but we do so with H
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with a legal mind such that we think
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this is the best chance of being
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enforceable should this actually go in
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front of the judge and the jury
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I mean yes you can go online and go get
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you know the patter yourself books and I
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think that's a fantastic foundation but
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go look when those were written right
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maybe five ten years ago and that's
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static right that doesn't change and a
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lot of those laws or either updated or
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some of the ways the recommendations are
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really not the best way to go about it
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so it's one of those ways we can we can
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show showcase the value you know and you
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want the best best for your baby project
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you know you got to go to a panda tree
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get it done well yeah well that's one of
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the great parts about how I love the way
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you guys present yourself not only are
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you constantly reinventing yourself you
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know you know you're not scared to say
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hey we don't know that or let's bring
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somebody in or or we did this we didn't
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do our free class of questions or we our
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website could be better or and and it's
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very important that people see you as as
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a human being they're scary
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but they're fearful when they come to
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tell you this idea one they they think
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you may say it's not a good idea or or
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you know that you shouldn't patent it so
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they're worried about that but they see
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you as you know this higher level which
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you are I mean knowing these laws and
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things that you do I mean it is insane
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person and and I think that that's why
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one of the reasons you're so so people
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can relate to you
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I think I think that's that's a great
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way that you do variable to people the
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way that you come across and talk to
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them and you're not making it up you're
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just a real person yeah absolutely and
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that that's one of the major reasons why
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I do the videos when we do the outreach
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so we're not just if no facelets patent
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attorneys and we want to be be known for
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who we are our specific backgrounds in
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industry and in our legal practice and
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what kind of clients we've served so
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thank you for that I appreciate all
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right
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oh no no problem at all do one question
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I do want to ask and I don't know that
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much about this but I have heard in the
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news and and you and I were on on the
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podcast with the director of the Patent
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Office directory on coop Andre Yakub
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yeah he's a great guy and we were both
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listening in and asking questions and
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they mentioned something about the P tab
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and I know it's been in the news lately
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and director Yan Co has promised to REE
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reevaluate and and maybe make some
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changes has any of that stuff come
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around at all it's starting to catch on
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he just did a talk at DC and he's
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looking at bringing out guidance for the
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Patent Office that is gonna streamline
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and patent eligibility subject matter
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eligibility has been a major issue for
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years since the CLS Bank versus Alice
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decision especially about computer
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implemented inventions and he is just
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sick to his stomach about how it's not
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clear as to what I know which inventions
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are patentable and which are not
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I mean eligible which patent eligible
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would it and so his that's his mission
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right now is to is to clarify that and
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he basically wants to reduce the amount
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of surprises that get handed down by the
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P tab court so the P tab is a patent
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trial and appeal board okayed it that's
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the forum of judges they're all they do
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all day long is here patent cases that's
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it that's their specialty so they don't
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that's that's these judges are you know
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the
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in the law and so they're very efficient
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cases they're very good at saying I know
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this doesn't warrant in a appeal right
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there's not enough merit here to this
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case it's you know declined and so they
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lose the ability to appeal so they've
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got a very good sense of the obviously
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they're making a lot but very good sense
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of you know what what the latest is
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that's the idea of the P tab is to get
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things out of federal court federal
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courts beds is here all sorts of
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different cases right from criminal to
11:41
white-collar crime I mean unique
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bankruptcies and so they've got a lot of
11:44
educating to do so it's tougher to get a
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federal federal court judge up to speed
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and patent mine sometimes since you get
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a lot of disparate results
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Blackey results same times and a lot of
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inefficiencies maybe not certainly not
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always the judges fault but sometimes
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litigants and so there's splendid
12:04
inefficiencies that was the reason why
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they set that up he's a fantastic thing
12:08
what Andriana is trying to do is reduce
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the workload of the P tab over the past
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five ten years they have seen an
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enormous workload because they've asked
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know being sort of the decision-maker on
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a lot of these cases as to when claims
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are going to be valid or not in this
12:27
area of software patents and he says his
12:32
belief is said it you know these
12:33
decisions shouldn't be made at the
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appeal level right we should have to
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spend all this money and effort arguing
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with examiner's petitioning to the
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director and then finally appealing to
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the P tau I don't need to be a whole lot
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more clarity that everyone is nodding
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their head black line black letter law
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statutes
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it's work okay yeah you're right this is
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intelligible this is eligible in toward
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there's no reason to litigate argue
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about it there's nothing to argue about
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it should be that clear that's that's
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where he's coming from
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yeah well that sounds like a huge
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undertaking with it it is it is the
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long-term goal is to absolutely get new
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law on the book now that's that is the
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biggest endeavor but in the interim he's
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doing this additional guidance
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which is not uncommon happens a lot but
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it's yeah I see we want to you want to
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give more ammunition to examiner's so
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they can they can supply very clear
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definitive rejections or allowances
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that's really it
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you want to take a confusion away
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eliminate the gray to is must the best
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you can as always be some grave
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otherwise don't be anything for
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attorneys to do but you gotta do you
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wanna you want to make it so that we as
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attorneys are able to explain patent
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eligibility in one breath we can't right
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now
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it's what's weird it's uh it's not clear
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we don't really know it's hard yeah well
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yeah exactly right and I just wanted I
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wanted to ask you about that I didn't
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know that much about I know that there
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was a lot of things happening a lot of
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patent laws that were trying to be
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changed and I know director Yong ku was
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was really fighting hard
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he seems like a serious guy seems like
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he really wants to get the stuff done
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for the right reasons
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yeah absolutely I'm really encouraged it
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was fun you know being invited to his
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podcast and having a mom on the show
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hearing him speak the way you talked
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yeah it's really straightforward mostly
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estar easygoing but yeah a good approach
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for a very strategic but once he things
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done he's not gonna sit on his laurels
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he's action based yeah I like the fact
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that you wanted to get his whole you get
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the Patent Office sort of rallying
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around where he's going he was we wanted
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to make sure that everyone was on board
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swimming in the right swim in the same
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direction yeah he seems like one of
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those guys that is personable but you
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can tell when you look at him like
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they're not mess with them though so
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yeah you know one other is I brought up
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because I was talking to Josh Malone
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he's the guy did a bunch of balloons and
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he was telling me and I don't I don't
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he has told this but out I even on a
15:32
podcast prior that he spent the
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20 million dollars on his patent case
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and I just thought that was insane did
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you have to spend that kind of money to
15:42
you protected his patent it was just I
15:45
mean that kind of money is insane right
15:48
it's a big money that's big money I
15:50
didn't follow his case that closely what
15:53
what's his story
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did he litigate here in the US only or
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is that overseas as well you know I'm
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not sure if he had international patents
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or not but you know another company
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knocked off his his patent and and was
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selling and just over the years he has
16:13
you know he calculated how much he lost
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by the patent infringement and and he
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won a huge case I mean we think was over
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like 50 million dollars yeah yeah Wow
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well I mean I am that twenty million
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figure I that sounds really big yeah I
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doubt that's all legal fees I bet he's
16:36
calculating opportunity lost right I
16:41
think that's probably fair maybe he's
16:43
saying had nobody infringed on him he
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would have potentially been able to make
16:50
that much revenue huh maybe that's where
16:52
he's coming that seems too big even for
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attorney I mean I think yeah certainly
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attorneys fees are a big issue and that
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could look kind of leading to our next
17:02
discussion which would be about hey you
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could actually get protection insurance
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for having to cover attorneys fees for
17:09
your pads patent insurance is very real
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thing I mean having a 20 million dollar
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policy and it would be unbelievable I
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think a million dollars or even a half
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million is proved you know for for
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someone that has a portfolio or even a
17:25
single patent that they're trying to in
17:27
for first for three maybe four thousand
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dollars a year I think that makes a lot
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of sense if you can afford it if you're
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in a litigious you know industry a lot
17:36
of players in the market you know like I
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said on the air before I'm not selling
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these insurance programs I just think
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it's so cool and think if I were out
17:45
there inventing and in business
17:47
it makes a lot of sense to do it'll look
17:49
at least look into and so but there
17:53
seems to consider as you get into that
17:55
you know what time however illegal would
17:58
you want to start doing that and so
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wouldn't you wouldn't want to start that
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right at the very beginning you need to
18:04
do some diligence and just do a
18:05
patentability search haven't have one
18:08
hired by have a patent trying to help
18:11
you with that and think through oh hey
18:12
even though this is a fun awesome idea
18:14
is there really room do we really think
18:17
we can get you pet protection for the
18:19
scope of rights that you want if the
18:22
answer is yes okay let's talk I think
18:23
the next step should be filing once were
18:26
filed now you can talk about ensuring
18:28
the the potential for what could become
18:32
a issued patent or build a portfolio
18:35
yeah I mean you read my mind that's
18:38
where I was kind of going with this
18:39
as I mentioned Josh with a bunch of
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balloons is that you know I had never
18:45
heard of patent insurance I know you
18:47
have some other items that we talked
18:49
about even a patent funding or insurance
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policies on the patents but having that
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insurance policy patent or or legal
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insurance on it if you're making money
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with your product I think it's an
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awesome idea I just didn't know was
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available yep it's a it's something we
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found a little over a year ago and we've
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been working with our clients to
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recommend them they look into getting a
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policy it's you know it's it's a risk
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tolerance thing and so it's not for
19:21
everybody
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not right for everyone at that time but
19:26
something to certainly put in your on
19:29
your list so that you can make good
19:30
business decisions all the time right
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make sure you have the awareness of it
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and you're right many people don't even
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know about it
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so that's why I'm trying to make sure I
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get it out talking to you on this
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program about it we've got on or on our
19:44
website we would talk about people talk
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about that with people in our
19:47
consultations as well no that's cool I
19:49
know we're gonna cut the show a little
19:52
short today I did have one question that
19:53
came in on on be funding for patents and
19:59
I know we talked about this I don't know
20:00
the exact term that
20:01
mentioned and the person was wondering
20:03
about how how tight or how strong the
20:07
patent has to be in order to get one of
20:10
those policies or get the funding from
20:13
these companies out you're you that
20:16
you're utilizing or recommending to get
20:19
that funding wrong should the patent be
20:21
or does it is it's something that they
20:23
can you'll put the patent in themselves
20:25
because some people do file their own
20:26
patents yeah it's um so what happens is
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these insurers these brokers of the
20:33
insurance they will work with firms like
20:35
ours to to conduct quite a bit of
20:38
diligence before they'll issue a policy
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or give a quote even you know much like
20:43
a home insurance company you know before
20:45
they give you their quote they're gonna
20:48
at least look at an appraisal they're
20:51
gonna figure out hey how much is this
20:52
home really worth I'm going to take a
20:54
look at it and you know the good ones
20:56
will have someone come out and actually
20:59
look it up and down look at the
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structure look at the dirt in banks so
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much like a patent insurance broker
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they're gonna go look at the patent and
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so they hire a patent attorney they do
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have in-house patent attorneys and so
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they're going to take a look at those
21:13
claims look at the spec and put
21:15
themselves in the shoe the examiner and
21:17
and say hey are these claims gonna be
21:20
valid are is the is the scope of rights
21:23
that they're seeking what's the value
21:26
there how much difference is it from the
21:28
prior art you know it's just a minor
21:32
improvement on something already out
21:33
there and you know yeah it's not the
21:35
market potentials you know three to four
21:37
million or is this really something big
21:39
that could go you know billion-dollar
21:41
type idea that sort of lotion that that
21:46
would leave you know probably lend them
21:47
to probably more reasonable rates we
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haven't worked through this with many
21:53
clients I don't have a whole lot of you
21:54
know your actual experience with it but
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there definitely is sort of an almost
21:59
evaluation process so that's a really
22:01
cool part of this is that you they may
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not give you all that information and
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you could ask for if you should if you
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at least seek a quote which are kind of
22:11
getting a little bit of a elyda T and
22:13
evaluation on your
22:15
application or patent while you're
22:17
getting the insurance so if they issue a
22:19
policy that is sort of a stamp of
22:21
approval that says your patent is
22:23
valuable
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how much is sort of you know behind the
22:27
scenes a little bit more ambiguous but
22:29
it's certainly something they're going
22:32
to do that they're not going to issue
22:32
policies on just at any old application
22:35
that Joe Schmoe files on their own and
22:39
but I I should stop there that I have
22:43
seen policies issued for even
22:45
applications right so pending even
22:48
Provisionals that there's that there's
22:50
enough of there based on a search that
22:54
can be conducted or if you hired a
22:55
patent attorney to do a search if you
22:57
supply them your pending application
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number and the patent opinion search
23:02
that you had done now that could provide
23:05
some you know some standing so we
23:07
actually could showcase potential value
23:10
even before you've you know followed
23:13
your non-provisional even before an
23:15
examiner has even seen it you can
23:16
actually have protection for that and I
23:20
from talking with these brokers the
23:23
earlier you get the policy issued
23:26
started the more affordable it'll be you
23:32
know I that's a great idea I didn't even
23:34
think of it the way but I mean to you
23:36
early it's a validation process to I
23:38
mean you got a patent and you're going I
23:40
got this piece of paper but having a
23:42
company that doesn't know you that's
23:43
gonna insure it that may give you
23:45
funding for it that really is proof of
23:47
concept also that's pretty cool there we
23:54
go yeah I just had an audio issue there
23:57
so um well I was saying that the way you
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explained it I never really thought
24:02:00
about you know that is a way to get a
24:05:00
proof of concept it's not just you
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saying it's cool the Patent Office said
24:09:00
here's your patent but it should know a
24:11:00
company that doesn't know you it's their
24:13:00
job to print you know to pay you in case
24:15:00
something happens I think that's a great
24:17:00
way to she really have that third party
24:19:00
absolutely yeah I think it's wonderful
24:21:00
thing and but I think it's smart for an
24:24:00
inventor to work with the patent
24:25:00
attorney to help you position your case
24:27:00
properly
24:28:00
to that insurance company to make sure
24:31:00
you're not going to either take an
24:32:00
advantage of or you wanna make sure
24:33:00
you're taking things in stride and also
24:36:00
considering it among a lot of other
24:37:00
things that you should be doing as an
24:40:00
inventor especially growing and starting
24:42:00
a business you should be putting some
24:43:00
things in place well before you ever
24:45:00
seek insurance nothing's like setting up
24:47:00
your business entity considering
24:49:00
trademark trade secret law and print
24:53:00
sometimes copyright and also making sure
24:55:00
your ducks in a row with your
24:56:00
corporation you're taking on funding
25:00:00
from outside sources to me that all
25:01:00
takes a lot of late way more priority
25:03:00
than getting an insurance policy so
25:06:00
prioritization advice and strategy with
25:09:00
all the stuff that you need to think
25:10:00
about that's why because we're like that
25:12:00
attorney to kind of get you H said oh
25:16:00
yeah
25:17:00
very cool well that's kind of why I mean
25:19:00
I recommend you know anyone that is
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listening to go back to - JD's website
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and take a look at his YouTube channels
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take a look at the past i up podcasts
25:30:00
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25:31:00
information on his page and it goes over
25:33:00
most of the things you just mentioned
25:36:00
yeah absolutely and so for any listeners
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thank you
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very good all right JD we'll listen man
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