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hi everyone and welcome to the ILP
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Network I am Carmen danesco your host
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for today's show of the go big gobo old
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go big go bold I'm having problems
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talking today I'm a little tired it's a
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Monday show with with my co-host my
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friend mr. JD Hoover hey JD you over
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there hey carmine yes bold indeed yeah
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having it having a good day over here
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how about you I'm doing good man I'm
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doing good I'm glad we're I mean our
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listeners don't know that but I'm glad
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we're starting to show a little bit
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later in the day it was super early for
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you and and early for me too and gives
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me a little time to kind of wake up man
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so what's happening out your way what's
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going on oh man well you know we're
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doing good off to a good start I get up
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early you know if you do too but I've I
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get up 5:00
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you know so I got it's already 10:30 so
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yeah we've got a good plan for the week
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ahead we're doing I'm gonna go to an
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event Eastern Washington Wenatchee it's
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a conference called the flywheel
1:03
conference the gathering of all the
1:05
angel investors so did you say these did
1:11
you say when actually that's your sound
1:12
like yeah yeah oh yeah got you sorry man
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going to an event yes yeah go to that
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we're just gonna we're not sponsoring
1:27
but we're we're gonna go check it out
1:30
it's a group of angel investors and they
1:33
they are gonna basically do a shark tank
1:35
so pitch competition together with a
1:39
nice showcase of innovation it's funny
1:42
even why in a Washington's a pretty good
1:44
sized state and it's separated by the
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mountains in the Cascade Range and it's
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incredible the different types of
1:50
businesses different types of people I
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mean the west side does tend to be way
1:54
more liberal a bit more techie the east
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side mounds has always kind of had the
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reputation of being more farming and
2:01
industrial and agricultural but this
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conference is kind of putting a stake in
2:05
the ground to say no no we've got two
2:08
universities out here we are we are
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innovation
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as well we've got new ideas and we've
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got some text so I'm gonna go see if
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they can prove it
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it'll be fun to go check it out that's
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funny are you it seems like even I know
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that the big colleges are always really
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still gangbusters but seems like even
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the mid-level colleges Dallin
2:30
everybody's really going crazy with
2:32
different technologies and looking to
2:34
and patent things for their schools and
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you know they're having all of these
2:38
pitch contests and new products and
2:40
innovation I mean it seems like they're
2:43
just going gangbusters now yeah it is
2:46
and there's a lot of attention on it I
2:48
you know there's probably a lot of you
2:49
know guessing that could be done my
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guess you know when I'm not but that
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we're in an upswing in the economy
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people do have some money if they've got
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some equity they've got it but they
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they're looking at trying to get
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involved in some new new things and so
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there's lots of these forums for new
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ideas but I'm not actually sure how many
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of these brilliant ideas that actually
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are people want there to be innovation
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they want to get in on something but I
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think it's just as rare as it's always
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been you know to get those big those big
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rare ideas so it's great don't get me
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wrong it's great that there's this
3:30
activity but it's got to find the right
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places to be and I think you you know if
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you're an innovator now is the best time
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to be doing it because you've got all
3:41
these of these forums but don't get
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dismayed by the fact that oh there's all
3:45
these innovation groups all these pitch
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competitions there must be so many good
3:48
ideas if you've got something good
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you're still gonna stand out people are
3:54
still looking for those those are really
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bright you know market changing ideas so
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go big go bold with your idea now's the
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time that is so true though you know
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even here you know we got several people
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that are answering the phones people
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calling us and sending in ideas all the
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time
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and they love all the ideas all the
4:15
people call they're so enthusiastic and
4:17
they're great idea is that once or twice
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a month where one of my guys will walk
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in and say I got this guy on the phone
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this idea is
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okay all these ideas are cool you hear
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him on the phone they're always joking
4:29
with with with the people calling in and
4:31
the ideas but it was one or two that
4:35
just really catch these guys and you're
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right I mean you don't want it to be
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like the the.com era you know early 2000
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work you know everybody had a huge
4:42
website but it all went bust you know so
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yeah I can see what you mean about
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people just getting caught up in that
4:48
big innovation thing that they just have
4:51
to jump in on something where you want
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them to do that yeah yeah it's yeah it
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does take the right kind of timing you
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know everything's got to come together
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just right to really get a spark at the
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right time what you've got funding and
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you've got the right people behind it
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with energy and the good team
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you know that's rare it really is rare
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and so I think it's great it's fantastic
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all these different groups are coming
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out including universities you know non
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non d1 you know forums where these are
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small or even community colleges really
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getting into it and getting backed by
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cities and counties and states it's
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awesome
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yeah is that something you know as
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you're saying that is that something
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where if you're say you're going to the
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school and your student and know you're
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working on a project and this project
5:37
becomes an in innovation is that
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something that you are a part of or you
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will gain any I don't even want to say
5:47
make money on it because it's not you
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know but but how does that work with if
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they if you're working with the school
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but you're paying to go to school there
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you know and you're working on his
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project I mean how does this school
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separate that yeah so it's every classes
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definitely if you have a class work
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where the professor is is guiding the
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whole situation right they've actually
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laid out specifically what to go do and
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they are more hands-on it's going to
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lean toward you know the university to
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own you know the college to own that but
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I have heard of lots of stories of
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projects that kind of go the other way
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where there's less hands-on and where
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there's an explicit assignment of
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ownership to their students and they
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want their students to know they own
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this if they can actually define what
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this is and it goes you know even more
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in their favor
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if they're doing lots of work outside of
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the actual campus if they're doing work
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at home off you know outside of where
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they're actually gonna be earning grades
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you know they're doing above and beyond
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type work that definitely goes toward
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individual ownership outside a
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university now professors themselves of
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course they're getting paid just like an
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employee so they fall into the same
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bucket as any other employee where the
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university is going to own any of the
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research or outputs of the research and
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what's interesting now is that with this
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kind of going toward sort of fiscal
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conservatism and less money going to
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universities and colleges we decided big
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announcement the University of
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Washington where they're used to do a
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whole lot of in-house IP protection
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they're letting a lot of it go out to
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the individuals they're not being quite
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as aggressive because they don't have
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the funding to manage it and keep it all
7:34
together so there's a lot of Licensing
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out to try to get money
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and a lot of just sort of letting
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professors and students own it without
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really bird-dogging much of that so it's
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fun to see I I like that it being able
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to reward the student with innovations
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trying to get their you know
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incentivized to keep doing that even
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while they're in school yeah that's
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amazing you know yeah a lot of us you
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know or people listeners they don't
8:03
realize the amount of innovations that
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are coming out of these colleges you
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know here in in the Florida area just
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you get these big schools like
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University of Florida and they don't
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Florida State and I mean you know
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obviously a lot of people don't realize
8:17
that Gatorade was developed at the
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college I mean the drink was why it was
8:24
the Florida Gators they need to Gatorade
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and you know people don't realize that
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it's just uh even I didn't wondered that
8:30
I didn't really know that okay I didn't
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know that I guess makes a lot of sense
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yeah yeah and it's it's it's it's so
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cool you know when you think about when
8:38
coming up with an innovation imagine
8:41
being the people that work than that you
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know you were you're in college and
8:44
you're working on this thing and it
8:46
becomes this huge worldwide you know
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it's pretty cool stuff I think that it
8:52
would be fun to be able to do that
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I mean even a USF the University of
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Florida here a University of South
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Florida here they have an Innovation
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Center and it is lined with patents up
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and down the hallways and it just amazes
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me that like as you said they have not
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only the ability to to do that but
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manage it but but use the IP have the
9:14
attorneys have the paperwork somebody
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can manage all that it must be a huge
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cost totally totally
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yeah and I you know I think you know one
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thing we get the academic side food
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which was to me it was not quite as fun
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you know you get the academics that just
9:30
want to get there in a way boast their
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their ego in a way and I don't like
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working with you know professors or
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those that just want to document what
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they've come up with
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I'd much rather work with those that
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want to go make a change in the world
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and go into the economy right and make a
9:47
difference move move everyone forward
9:49
you know create jobs all that good stuff
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I think that's that that's what I get
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excited about you know with this
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discussion about academics and kind of
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coming out of innovations into college I
9:59
actually get way more excited and
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passionate about this sort of you know
10:03
folks out there hustling you know that
10:06
they're out of college they gotta eat
10:07
you know they got to survive and so it's
10:09
kind of a necessity as and mother of
10:11
innovation and you gotta figure out a
10:13
way to make this this phone case you
10:17
know do what you needed to do to be able
10:20
to make a living you're gonna find a way
10:22
and I kind of like I kind of simile I
10:24
kinda like that
10:25
I've drawn toward inventors that are
10:28
hungry and I have an entrepreneurial
10:30
mind and what I want to hit the market I
10:32
feel like they're actually gonna be more
10:33
likely to bring it about right then then
10:37
just kind of document something don't
10:39
get me wrong or not ragging on students
10:40
I'm just saying they may not be quite as
10:41
hungry yeah yeah their their their focus
10:44
on their on their learning not about
10:46
bringing things to market yeah hey that
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is a great point because a lot of times
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in the academic side they're just making
10:52
things just for the students to learn
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how the process is is where somebody
10:57
bootstrapping their idea know every step
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is so important so they're thinking
11:01
about their their process the next steps
11:04
and they're and they're not doing things
11:05
at a sequence while hopefully not
11:07
yeah I agree with you 100% and those
11:10
products always seem to move across a
11:12
lot quicker because you just don't have
11:13
the funding you have to do exactly what
11:15
needs to be done yep you got it you got
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it
11:18
yeah it's finding that sweet spot and
11:19
there's certainly all kinds of cases all
11:21
over the place I mean I'm inspired by
11:22
some of these people that I've been in
11:24
the industry and then they decide to go
11:26
back to school because they know exactly
11:27
what they want to learn I am just in awe
11:29
of someone willing to do that you know
11:32
to go back and I say get a CS degree and
11:34
they're 35 4 years old or 50 years old
11:36
it's like my goodness that is dedication
11:38
and so looking me wrong there they could
11:40
be plenty of innovation yeah pretty
11:43
powerful decision to be able do that so
11:46
we get some inventors that that come in
11:49
to the office and they're like yeah well
11:50
right now I'm taking a business course
11:52
you know because I want to learn how to
11:53
run the company and you know they know
11:55
what they want to do and I'm like I know
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I know it's it's very inspiring and I
12:05
look at my wife a little bit cuz she's
12:07
always said no more school JD you know I
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got my engineering degree with the
12:11
Business School in the way at the law
12:12
school I set out to then I mean it's
12:15
just like I think I anyway I always
12:18
think about potentially wanting to get
12:20
in there again cuz but one although my
12:22
do it if I'd something very specific to
12:23
learn yeah yeah your industry don't get
12:28
me wrong I mean it isn't as but people
12:31
look for that probably or are you so
12:33
specific that you really need to be able
12:35
to drill down if you're gonna be specify
12:37
and what you're gonna cover so yeah in
12:39
your case sometimes it is important yeah
12:42
I mean I have thought I mean one of the
12:43
recent technologies is it was a few I
12:46
mean blockchain is one I really feel
12:48
like if I was gonna dive in right now
12:50
that would be the one followed up by
12:54
machine learning artificial intelligence
12:57
stuff I feel like that's incredible it's
12:59
world-changing so you know while I can
13:02
talk about a high level I don't
13:03
personally have the background I've got
13:05
attorneys that work at our firm that do
13:06
understand it
13:08
that'd be a fun area I'd like to dig in
13:10
myself yeah but well let's change gears
13:15
a little bit how your videos go man I
13:16
mean I see you blowing the stuff up out
13:18
there yeah but ball Today Show is
13:21
and we got it down I've I'm working on
13:24
moving people to to a newsletter email
13:27
newsletter or close I'm excited about
13:29
the traction we're getting on social
13:31
media we're getting good feedback you
13:33
know trying to get some good engagement
13:35
there but the feedback has all been
13:38
positive people from the industry other
13:41
attorneys have been given their input on
13:43
it which means that you know other
13:45
experts are you know listening to this
13:47
and acknowledging it and sometimes
13:50
agreeing sometimes given additional
13:51
feedback which i think is excellent the
13:54
number of views is up every time we put
13:56
a post we've got lists almost 60
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episodes now we're proven internally
14:01
that we can actually do this and basis
14:02
you know sustainable put this out Monday
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through Friday three to five minutes a
14:08
quick lesson on patent patent specific
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or written subject matter give a nice
14:13
challenge I'm speaking to inventors
14:16
right and this message is about getting
14:18
to the heart of something interesting
14:19
about patent law that they can take away
14:23
and hopefully to lead them to our
14:25
website or to our other more complete
14:27
references and to move their product
14:30
forward you know it really is an
14:31
inspiration an inspirational step there
14:34
to get them to nudge nudge them forward
14:36
and maybe before they're really ready
14:38
right you know no one's really ever
14:39
ready to make that big move that's what
14:42
the show's goal is to try to get someone
14:44
to take that step yeah I mean well it's
14:47
it's obviously working because some of
14:49
our listeners on our other shows have
14:51
mentioned mention your your video series
14:54
because I think I you know people like
14:56
it because it's quick it's really
14:57
succinct right to the point and then
15:00
you're at work you're like okay done
15:01
you know yeah I you know if you're
15:03
watching or listening because you can
15:04
listen to it either either way I know a
15:06
lot of people that watch them at work I
15:07
watch them on their cell phone so it's
15:09
real quick stuff but it's it's very
15:11
integrated into their day very easy to
15:14
add in yes if I was a Friday in the
15:17
first instance of a fan and spotted me
15:22
it's like JD I'm like hi do we know each
15:27
other well no I've seen you on YouTube
15:30
through the bold Today Show it's like my
15:32
name is Mike oh my gosh so it's like
15:33
this is
15:34
cool and I got a used to that yeah but
15:38
it's hard when you and someone else
15:39
recognizes you it's flattering that
15:42
they've seen me and all that he has some
15:44
good feedback he's kind of a social
15:46
media guru so he's able to give some
15:49
good feedback to that is great that's
15:52
awesome yeah it's always a little you
15:54
always step back a little bit but it's
15:56
great to hear from and and I ask any of
15:59
the listeners to write in sending emails
16:02
or were you know just get in touch with
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anyone any of us if you have questions
16:07
or you know if you see JD Young on the
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street go run up and grab absolutely the
16:16
last series you covered last week you
16:19
were it was covering on baseball yeah we
16:22
it was a patent on a baseball swinging
16:24
apparatus which I was kind of fun right
16:26
baseball season just kicking off so you
16:30
know I always think about batting cages
16:31
or you know these different things and
16:33
this device apparently reading over it
16:35
it it allowed a batter you know to swing
16:39
at and control the ball movement is
16:41
attached to a set of strings and it
16:43
gives varying resistance levels as you
16:45
hit the ball really cool things like
16:47
that so is this like I have to picked
16:49
one patent and talked about it all week
16:51
looking at different aspects of it walk
16:54
people through how to read the first
16:56
page of a patent itself so you can
16:59
really lean a glance see a lot of
17:01
information just from the first front
17:03
front cover how not to be scared of
17:05
claims I walk people through what it is
17:07
where they're located how to read it to
17:10
really understand what it is that the
17:11
inventor owns priority dates and they
17:15
also mentioned the difference between
17:16
the preferred embodiment and other
17:20
embodiments within a specification so by
17:22
having a nice example like that we're
17:24
able to keep people on the ball if
17:26
they're tuning in all week on the ball
17:29
but yeah I think the work did you did
17:33
you like not the joke the actual subject
17:40
yeah it was good what's weird you know
17:43
and you were covering that because we
17:44
have a few products were working on here
17:47
our baseball products and one just
17:50
happens to be a product at of a baseball
17:54
that helps the swing have to show send
17:57
that to you it's like reading our minds
18:01
over here on the West Connie's coach
18:05
yeah man send it over you know I I just
18:08
kind of picked that new you know
18:10
seasonally you know it would be on
18:12
people's mind and yeah I'm happy to talk
18:14
with anybody's got questions on it I
18:16
think they might be getting close
18:19
prior art wise or if they want to make
18:20
sure they in void infringement help oh
18:23
yeah do you get we hear get seasonal
18:27
type products you know people either
18:29
after sports season or before or
18:31
holidays you guys kind of see that kind
18:34
of trend yeah yeah we do I mean yeah we
18:42
all have much more to say other than
18:43
yeah it we it does come we've seen a
18:47
spike in three years running now in
18:51
January people do seem to have that you
18:55
know new year's inspiration and then
18:57
we'll see another spike in fall of
19:01
course we have a pretty good drop in in
19:03
summertime people do tend to go on
19:05
vacation in general and take a little
19:08
more time with families and stuff like
19:10
that but kind of get back to work right
19:12
when we see the rain starting to come
19:14
back you know September October people
19:16
want to get things done before the end
19:17
of the year that's another big spike but
19:21
it's first like you know sport or
19:24
anything you know kind of subclasses I
19:25
mean it's hard to say whether there's no
19:27
real big red books I know we're starting
19:31
to wind things down you do have one
19:32
question that came in about
19:35
international patents and I know we
19:37
cover this a little bit you probably get
19:38
this question is the person has a
19:41
us-based patent or she's applying for it
19:46
I forget the actual email have to grab
19:48
that but they're wondering if there's a
19:50
certain patents I mean there's obviously
19:52
hundreds of countries but like to cover
19:56
the the most or the largest spread what
19:59
would you be recommendation
20:00
jinan on what she should do I mean you
20:03
can't get hundreds of patents or is that
20:05
even possible it's possible it's
20:08
probably yeah if you got the money
20:10
it is possible the first point to make
20:13
is that you want to consider
20:15
international protection really early if
20:17
you already have a patent granted likely
20:20
it's out of the question
20:21
you've given up rights to file overseas
20:22
because your own patent publication will
20:26
serve as prior art against a future
20:29
filing so you in order to get
20:31
international protection
20:32
we recommend filing a link link at the
20:36
mat the moment that little echo echo
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there yeah but anybody number
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international natural application you
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greedy that's the pcpch lawyer short he
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and they will do a search called examine
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each of the you to the countries that
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you might have in Thailand so it's a big
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savings most having a file while paying
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for you sort of search each different in
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different countries like to the filing
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fees free grant be grand to have in
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common to this search for her true so
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it's you know you know benefit benefit
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filing and oiling in more than three or
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four three or four countries so they're
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planning on driving right yeah more than
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for them for countries well then it
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makes it an accessory that's not but
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that would be a lot I mean that many
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countries I mean usually what would you
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cover those that when you say like the
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UK does that cover like Europe or or you
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have to get one for each country so so
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you can separate upper now covers fifty
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to fifty different for standard states
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so you can feel that you buy the whole
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other country is really fairly uh can it
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connect Canada out of the tree and ramp
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that up you guys even working where your
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father's modified I have no
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marketability
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and all something also thinking about
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like sex license even if it's not it's
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not first layer exploiting voiding data
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still receives you licensed and investor
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dusters one essential intial yeah and so
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it's super important to decide early if
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you want to do any kinda international
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stuff I mean obviously so finally a
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patent prior is uh is a real nono if
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you're not going to you know if you are
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gonna be looking for international sales
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well waitingwaiting
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grant grant would be an idea no no
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problem yeah yeah you can call in
22:56
prohibition provisional the PCT can make
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priority backpack twelve months so we
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usually found the provisional say
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January one then we'll file a non
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provisional genuine one of the following
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year and the PCT on the same date non
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provisional and PCT on the same exact
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date both making reference back to that
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provisional one year ago no they're good
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man I will double-check on the actual
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question I thought I had it in my head I
23:26
think that the patent the patent was not
23:29
filed yet now that I think about it but
23:31
hopefully this will help and and I'll
23:34
send you the email from the actual
23:38
question this way it'll be able to get a
23:40
better answer well cool and also check
23:43
out that book think you've got a copy or
23:45
a few those chapter eighteen I believe
23:47
goes over PCT in some detail so give
23:51
them a copy of that book I mean or the
23:53
electronic version and friendlier
23:55
listeners out there I've got the version
23:56
available on our website at bold IP comm
23:59
you can go to the publication's under
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it's a good fit and where we know we can
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help you out very cool very good alright
24:22:00
my friend I guess we're gonna start
24:23:00
wrapping up you have anything else you
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want to cover anything any appearance
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are you gonna be a door what else you
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got going on anything you know now we're
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doing a lot of things local here if
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anyone's listening on the west coast up
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week next Monday Oh xxx 30th of April
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us out on our events calendar we're
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using Eventbrite you should be on there
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so we've done a nice workshop that seems
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to be the best forum we had a great
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event last month we're into it again
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this month we have like 10 spots so
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there's three more open if anybody's
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available to go be fun to fun to see
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yeah that's one thing I would recommend
25:11:00
any listeners can make it if you have a
25:13:00
question live like that go to the
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workshop it's so important I mean that
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is fun right being able to stand there
25:19:00
and help each person it is absolutely
25:23:00
super fulfilling we did that at the
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surfing cube ater earlier this month
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it's wonderful and what's great is that
25:29:00
other people have the same question and
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we can answer for everybody and it's
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just you can just tell everyone's
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engaged they're getting really good
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information they're gonna move it
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forward and you know whether they're
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moving for today or in a month from now
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it's they're they're moving their
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business forward I'm just happy to do it
25:45:00
that's what I find also the intellectual
25:48:00
property related questions I find that
25:51:00
two people were I don't want to say
25:53:00
scared they just they're not they're not
25:55:00
ready to ask them for some reason you
25:57:00
know until an expert and you probably
25:58:00
see it in their face when someone next
26:00:00
that I'm asked this question of it and
26:02:00
they're just so happy that you're giving
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me oh yeah oh yeah yeah they're taking
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notes like crazy or just like or sparks
26:09:00
another question and you knew that they
26:11:00
were thinking of it earlier yeah yeah
26:13:00
it's um because it is tricky has
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technical terms they don't know how to
26:17:00
phrase the question right
26:19:00
and and until you kind of walk them
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through that
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oh then they then opens up a whole
26:24:00
floodgate of other questions oh but wait
26:27:00
what if this and oh my gosh you know you
26:29:00
know anyway so it's really cool it's fun
26:31:00
to see that
26:32:00
and it happens live in those lectures
26:35:00
yeah welcome anybody I want that can
26:38:00
make it yeah the live interactive stuff
26:40:00
is great and I know you guys
26:41:00
do a lot I mean we have powerpoints and
26:44:00
shows that we do and we very seldom make
26:47:00
it to the end because we get so many
26:48:00
great questions it's a good thing it's a
26:53:00
good thing all right well cool man we're
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