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hi everyone and welcome to the inventors
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Launchpad Network
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I am carmine danesco your host for
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today's show of the inventors Launchpad
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and with me on the launch pad today is
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mr. free-rider he is a maker if you ever
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saw when he has free dimension dotnet
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which is a maker of all types of
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products prototypes samples he does like
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it's really printing CAD work all kinds
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of things and I'm so great grateful to
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have him on the show today because he's
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gonna give us some information on the
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industry what's been happening out there
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where it's going and also things that he
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has going on that maybe you could run
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into him at a show a Maker Faire your
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comic calm and I know he's got a lot of
0:48
different shows so let's bring him on
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and see what we can learn hey free you
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over there yes how's it go I'm doing
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good you know I know we were talking a
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little bit before before the show and I
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you had showed me some things that you
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were making and I noticed that out in
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st. Pete where you're your headquarters
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are your office is I saw online that you
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are at an art show or something the
1:12
other day and and I saw some of the
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things online that you're making I mean
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this industry is just exploding I mean
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you're making some real wild 3d prints
1:21
was with those all 3d prints that you
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had on display yes yeah yeah different
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technologies of course as you know and
1:29
there's you know a variety of 3d
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printing technologies I have or we use
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primarily two one is FDM that's the
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fused deposition modeling and the other
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one there's SLA which is the stereo
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lithography that uses a resin and a
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laser or a resin and UV to create the
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models we also use SLS but all the parts
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that I had at that Art Show were
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actually FDM and SLA and the SLA is
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something that we started just recently
1:59
and it's really a nice thing because it
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lets us do very intricate and organic
2:07
shapes which were not really possible
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before just due to the fact that the
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you know shape of something it doesn't
2:17
allow for a decent SDM print so that is
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really exciting also those machines can
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be used to make molds that then can use
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for your silicone molds or even
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injection mold to some degree well I
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dunno and again I noticed and again I
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any of the viewers or listeners that are
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out there I I implore you to go out to
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Freese website and see some of the
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things that he can make it's kind of
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mind-boggling how realistic how it looks
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like I mean these these things that
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you're making they don't look like
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they're made from 3d printing and I know
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you've been doing this a long time but
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it seems like the technology is really
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coming of age now yeah accessible is
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more economical and gets better on a
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daily basis with firmware the software
3:17
that's controlling it we're trying to of
3:21
course be at the at the leading edge of
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it even though I have to admit that I'm
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probably I'm you know I'm somewhere up
3:29
there but I'm probably not at the very
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well we're always trying different
3:33
things so we're trying to increase the
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the appearance of a part by certain
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treatments I always for customer jobs
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that try to stay away from it because it
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adds cost of course and you also run
3:50
into the chains that you're screwing
3:52
something up at the after an eight-hour
3:55
job and you start you know doing
3:57
something to it and then oh what that
3:58
didn't work out well so you got to redo
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it so I was kind of state try to stay
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away from it but of course for displays
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and shows for for for us I you know I do
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some experiments and there's there's a
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variety of different ways of of the
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improving the the appearance on the
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other hand to I really I like and I know
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that many of my customers do - they like
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the way the 3d print looks I mean it
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it's obvious it's a 3d print but that's
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not a bad thing that it's a 3d print if
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you want an injection mold apart and
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that's yeah it's it's not comparable in
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terms of its appearance and smoothness
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but for for many other you know things
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for a prototype or whatnot it's got a
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curious characteristics look that you
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know I actually like it you know so then
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of course here again the SLI is a little
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different since now the resolution is
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totally different or totally different
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the resolution is a lot higher in terms
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of the layer I can be down to 20 microns
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and so that you almost cannot see the
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layers with the naked eye you will have
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to go in with a loom and that makes a
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very smooth appearance and then just a
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little bit of spray paint and then
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you're good to go
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well I mean you you you you say that
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like it's very easy and I know for a
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fact I mean we're in it in you know an
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all disclosure free has done many
5:34
products or prototypes or samples for us
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here at the inventors launch pad and
5:39
some of the items that you deliver to us
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I mean it looks sometimes better than
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what we're gonna manufacture which is
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just awesome because our clients are so
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happy about that
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and but you mentioned earlier the amount
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of hours I don't think that people
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realize that haven't seen a printer at
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work they see all these things on the
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news and and it's always sped up so it
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looks like you know the 3d print is
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finishing so quickly I don't think they
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realize the amount of time you spend on
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creating something yeah that's true of
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course there is first of all you have to
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design stage where if something you know
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when I work with you guys I usually get
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already decent files there's very little
6:19
for me to do but for a customer job for
6:23
example some come in with a sketch that
6:25
they did last night at the bar and then
6:28
we basically start from from from
6:30
nothing in and designed there then go
6:34
back and forth to increase or to to make
6:37
it the way the customer wants
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so that's the first stage that can take
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several hours of course it can even take
6:45
weeks depending on the complexity of the
6:47
of the product and then then you go to
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that printing now depending on size and
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again complexity or just intricacy of
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the part
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it may take 24 hours easily or 36 hours
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that's why I always try to print
7:05
something of that size in sections not
7:08
try to print it as a single part since
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there's so many variables plastic
7:15
dynamics and all that and also our power
7:19
system sometimes is you know
7:22
questionable to say you know I when we
7:26
have a thunderstorm especially during
7:28
the summer month yeah you don't want to
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have a 24-hour print go and and and you
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are in you know an hour 23 basically
7:38
power goes off so I know there could be
7:41
some protection that I probably look
7:44
into since quite some time but anyhow
7:46
there's other reasons why keeping a
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print within an eight hour window and
7:52
makes a lot of sense and then assemble
7:54
it if it requires a larger piece but of
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course that is where we go to showers or
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when a customer comes in and sees the
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machine it's the machines in action
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that's always the first thing is they
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say wow this is going to take forever
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and I said well yeah it takes time but
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on the other hand you know imagine how
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much quicker it actually is and
8:15
traditional methods work so the 3d
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printing is really not unless you're
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mesmerized by it which I sometimes am
8:24
but it's really not something to look at
8:27
in and wait for it to complete unless
8:30
it's a very tiny part like I just you
8:33
know came off the machine before we
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started here that is a 15-minute part
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for that of course you can wait you
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don't watch it doing it you do something
8:42
else and then it's done but if you have
8:43
an eight hour job that's usually done at
8:45
night or during the day that you can
8:47
monitor it and and so forth but it takes
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a considerable
8:52
time especially when you're trying to
8:54
achieve a high resolution just because
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it's just the time of the machine its
8:59
deposits that plastic the FDA machine
9:02
your deposits that plastic on the
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basically that the section of the part
9:09
and then built it up very slowly on the
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depending on layer Heights and in
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depending on what plastic speeds will
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have to be reduced as well so yes it
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takes time the quick answer yes it takes
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time and the reason I bring that up is
9:27
that you know again even here at the
9:30
launch pad we have one of your 3d
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printers I don't think people realize
9:32
that you you make and manufacture and
9:35
sell actual 3d printers and we have one
9:38
here and we're sometimes running our 3d
9:39
printer and a client will come in and
9:41
it'll be taking time to make and they'll
9:43
be looking at it like there's something
9:44
wrong like what's what's why is this
9:46
happening so you know so slowly and it's
9:49
hard to it's hard to uh you know let
9:54
people know or or or explain why it's
9:56
taking so long and and it's kind of good
9:59
that that you are talking about this and
10:01
letting people know that you know
10:02
creativity or when you're making
10:04
something that is never made before you
10:05
really can't put too many time limits on
10:08
it because it'll end up backfiring on
10:10
your right I mean I mean you people come
10:12
in and say hey I need this in an hour or
10:14
I need this in three hours and you're
10:15
just like hey it doesn't happen how
10:18
absolutely on the other hand of course
10:21
this is also called graphic prototyping
10:23
so if somebody comes in and is ready to
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go as a good file a good STL file I mean
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we can we can get this through in a few
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hours I need a few hours just to get the
10:36
job in and out of course we have many
10:40
many customers that actually come
10:42
through here that are a long time maybe
10:45
maybe well it doesn't really make any
10:48
difference but that come in and want the
10:50
part the same day and we can we can
10:53
absolutely do this is if it's within the
10:56
realms of physics that the machine can
10:57
handle if it's a 36 hour day of course
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it's not going out today you know it
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amazes me yeah it
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that and and I can see you being
11:09
stressed I don't know you're very
11:11
laid-back guy which is good but doing
11:13
anything for 24 hours I mean it would
11:16
really stress me out saying is this job
11:18
gonna finish in right in the amount of
11:19
time I mean has there been the job that
11:21
has going 20 hours or or or 30 hours and
11:25
something happened in those last hours I
11:32
remember the last bad power failure that
11:35
I did not expect coming that was I had
11:38
an a six hour print the 4-hour print and
11:41
a two-hour print in and it stopped all
11:43
three of them know so there there is
11:45
ways to go back and certain issues or
11:49
certain certain scenarios but it's in
11:53
terms of the appearance and whatnot you
11:54
always kind of see that in so it's it's
11:58
it's pretty much gone but it's not the
12:02
end of the world but of course there's
12:03
like I said before there's other things
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too
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so there's plastic dynamics of different
12:10
plastics when they cool
12:11
after being extruded there's of course
12:17
filament that can tangle up stuff can
12:21
get clogged you name it so there's
12:24
things but for the most part I gotta say
12:26
I mean this works out very smooth and
12:28
since we know all those factors they can
12:32
be factoring in and in and you try to
12:35
prevent it at the beginning so it's a
12:37
very easy way for example is to kind of
12:39
make sure that the filament that you
12:41
need if it's like 12 meters that those
12:43
12 meters are not tangled up you just
12:46
you know unroll it from the from the
12:48
spool make sure you got 12 meters that
12:50
are not tangled up but and you know
12:52
okay that's eliminated and then make
12:54
sure everything is clean and that helps
12:56
you know with the the clog in issue now
12:58
if Duke Energy is doing its job you know
13:02
we get a successful print you know it's
13:06
just um and as you mentioned earlier it
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is rapid rapid prototyping rapid it is
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and it is I mean we here at the event
13:14
let the launch pad we use free for many
13:17
things because sometimes
13:19
the cost is is there but if we go to one
13:22
of our manufacturers in another country
13:25
even China the Philippines Turkey even
13:27
South America Canada what's great about
13:30
what you do is that you can get us that
13:32
print a lot quicker where we can show to
13:36
the client we can be underway the client
13:38
can say I like this I don't like this
13:40
let's change this because now we're
13:42
actually testing a prototype whereas if
13:46
we went to one of our manufacturers one
13:48
of our factories they can do it but
13:51
we're talking about shipping and time
13:52
and logistics so so yes I mean utilizing
13:56
what you do even though it is more
13:58
expensive it's not in the long run and
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do you find that with some of your
14:02
clients when they really look at the
14:03
costs overall they realize that
14:05
sometimes you're probably coming in at
14:07
lower cost and if they prototype didn't
14:09
found it didn't work yeah actually I'm
14:18
gonna raise my prices if we're G perdant
14:23
and you know some some companies
14:25
overseas but of course it totally
14:27
depends on what it is if you have a
14:29
large complex piece of a prototype we
14:35
were working on together at one point
14:37
this is really not something that's very
14:39
feasible to do here but if it's a you
14:43
know one of the 3d prints within about
14:46
an eight by eight by eight cube in terms
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of print area volume I definitely should
14:54
be very very competitive here because of
14:58
if you look at 3d printing in any court
15:02
and you compare our prices and I mean 3d
15:05
printing here in the states are very
15:06
competitive with our pricing so and
15:09
again you you said it you know you know
15:12
what you're getting you can come look at
15:15
it you can you know tell us exactly what
15:18
you want in in many instances we can
15:22
turn it around 24 hours yeah and and I
15:26
know you have I mean you have clients
15:27
you know basically in the US all of you
15:29
guys but also all over the world that
15:31
send you files and send you things and
15:34
what is really your core business like
15:37
if we were speaking to you client says
15:39
the prototyping is it I know the use
15:41
you're a problem-solver you design you
15:43
design prototypes or people's samples
15:45
different ideas people come to you with
15:46
just sketches is there is there a
15:50
certain core that you like doing is it
15:52
is it the 3d printing or is it kind of
15:53
everything I mean I know that you have
15:55
your own inventions also yeah it's a
15:58
good question I answer because it's what
16:02
I really love about the whole the things
16:04
that I'm doing is that the variety
16:08
there's so many different things and I
16:10
actually I like that I do see and see
16:13
cuts of signage to make 3d print 3d
16:18
printed signs we make artistic designs
16:21
we make mechanical machines prototypes
16:26
of you know you name it
16:29
because we can't name some of em yeah
16:32
it's it's that's what I really like
16:36
about and and I think that's what I will
16:38
consider the core businesses the
16:41
basically a little bit of everything but
16:43
I say the main things that are constant
16:46
are a certain amount of design and a 3d
16:49
print and then that gives us that
16:52
concludes most other jobs some jobs
16:56
didn't go on into production some jobs
16:58
go into the bad thing part of it but
17:03
primarily these two components for lack
17:07
of a better term are or what we and it's
17:12
and it's fun I mean I can only imagine
17:14
you know here when we give people their
17:16
prototypes of their samples but when you
17:19
have a client come in and you're like
17:21
here's your product and they've never
17:22
really seen it before it must be a lot
17:24
of fun to hand it to them yeah it is one
17:29
of the best aspects of the whole thing
17:31
of course in and the surprise sometimes
17:33
doing it positive or sometimes not that
17:36
positive oh I thought it's gonna be a
17:38
lot bigger or oh this big you know you
17:42
have to make a little smaller all those
17:44
kind of things that you can look at
17:45
something on the screen
17:46
gazillion times you can have it as a
17:49
hundred percent two-dimensional print in
17:51
front of you on a piece of paper with
17:53
dimensions and everything the real size
17:55
is sometimes hard to detect or to make
18:00
out and once you have it in your hands
18:02
it's a different thing but I'd say yeah
18:04
90% of the cases it's a very positive
18:07
experience to have that that thing that
18:10
once was just an idea
18:14
tangible objects in your hands and
18:17
within a very short period of time yeah
18:20
and that's the and that's the biggest
18:21
part what we're talking about a short
18:23
amount of time I mean there's there's
18:25
clients that we have and I know you have
18:27
that have been thinking about their
18:28
ideas for months years and when they
18:31
come to us or where we send the file or
18:34
they send the file to you you know
18:35
within if just a day or a few days
18:37
depending on when you can get to the job
18:39
or when we can be able to hold that but
18:41
what's great about it is even what you
18:43
just said even if it's I don't want to
18:44
say a negative you know if they say oh I
18:46
need it to be bigger I needed to be
18:47
smaller I needed to be wider or whatever
18:49
I mean if they went to manufacturer they
18:53
found out at the wrong time it could be
18:55
very very costly misstep and you're able
18:58
to negate that by giving them that 3d
19:00
file within just a few days things can
19:12
be produced in in a way that you know
19:16
most people can actually even realize
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19:23
this is now so available they can come
19:29
to us and get something into their hands
19:33
yeah that's not and that's one of the
19:36
other reasons I really wanted to have
19:37
you on the show I'm going to try to have
19:38
you back because this information is a
19:41
constantly growing I mean every day
19:43
there's new there's new types of
19:45
technology there's new things we hear
19:46
about but we really don't understand it
19:49
unless we are in the systems or we've
19:51
made something or you know everybody
19:53
talks about 3d printers but they made
19:54
now to be able to never seen a 3d
19:56
printer but they talked about it you
19:58
know and because that's what they hear
19:59
about
20:00
where do you see the future of 3d
20:03
printing condemn everyone free printers
20:05
first came out everybody was saying
20:06
they're gonna have a 3d printer in their
20:07
house and they're gonna print glasses
20:09
and plates and forks and all different
20:12
kinds of things because the 3d printers
20:14
are gonna replace you know everything in
20:17
their house but you know it seems like
20:19
over time the 3d printers no came of age
20:24
and people are using them just like
20:26
every technology it's not as easy to
20:28
implement as we were led to believe at
20:31
the beginning can you still hear me yeah
20:36
I can hear you okay good so yeah I think
20:38
you know 3d printing definitely is
20:40
getting like we said earlier more
20:43
accessible more economical and I can see
20:48
3d printing being used in manufacturing
20:51
it already is but even a lot more and a
20:55
lot quicker than most people think to
20:58
make parts it just makes so much sense
21:00
to not produce you know quantities
21:04
because you don't have to you create as
21:07
many as you need and then you go in a
21:10
you know in create more as soon as you
21:14
need him or you go to a different part
21:16
you can don't need any kind of inventory
21:18
you can produce the parts as soon as
21:21
they are needed the cost is not any
21:25
different if you're making ten or one
21:29
that's actually something that's
21:30
interesting that I tell many of my
21:32
customers they always think that it's
21:34
like in that in the regular printing
21:36
industry that when you order 10 of
21:39
something or 5,000 of something it's
21:42
actually the same price as 1,000 just
21:45
because it once the machine is set up
21:47
and everything is running you then let
21:50
it run a little longer now here on the
21:53
3d printing side that's not the case so
21:55
it's you know the more pieces you want
21:57
the more it's gonna cost because 10
22:00
pieces take 10 times as long as one so
22:04
it's not going to be any kind of time
22:05
saving of course sometimes you can put
22:07
them in the same machine at the same
22:09
time but that only saves you that
22:14
the trouble of turning the machine on
22:16
and off it doesn't really save any time
22:19
in terms of printing speed yeah I'm sure
22:23
that manufacturing whatever it is will
22:26
you know yeah I totally agree and as you
22:34
said we know there's a lot of large
22:36
companies already implementing you know
22:38
if they don't need it I think they're
22:39
implementing just to just to get up to
22:41
speed so that when it as actually comes
22:44
available in their industry they're
22:46
they're up to speed on it and you had we
22:49
had worked together on a few projects
22:51
and I know that since we we had
22:54
purchased our 3d printer from me and
22:56
we've been using it it seems like the
22:59
filament which is what's used in a 3d
23:01
printer it seems like there's a lot more
23:03
different types of materials available I
23:05
mean can you go through a little bit of
23:06
really what's available cuz I think
23:08
people are still thinking I don't my
23:10
product not made out of plastic or I
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want it to look different and they may
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be made they may be shying away from 3d
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printing because they don't think that
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the type of materials available yeah
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well there's there's a lot of different
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but there's different technologies of 3d
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printing and the FDM for example is that
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fused deposition modeling which is your
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machine many of my machines these are
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these use of filament it's a plastic
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wire and of course that got a lot better
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over time
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and just this year versus or this year
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saw a different let me say this way
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different materials a lot of different
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plastics different you know parts of the
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equipment of the machine actually allow
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for different plastics now to be printed
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so initially we started out with ABS and
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went on to PLA ABS is very commonly
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known plastic basically anything in your
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cars yes
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PLA is a bioplastic it's great for
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printing but it also gets soft when it's
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hot in the car outside
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and then there's nylon there's
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polypropylene there's TPU thermal
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polyurethane robbery kinda stuff
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flexible materials there's there's wood
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fiber in induced PLA s as well as metal
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powders powder in those PL is that kind
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of make an appearance for metal part
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also have a nice weight to it but then
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let's say on the SLS
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3d printing technology there is metal
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printing there's a lot of different
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materials readily available so I don't
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think that material should be a reason
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to stay away from from 3d printing
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because anything can be 3d printed out
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lays pretty much any anything even human
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organs so and again this is it this is
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where I usually say that I don't like
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the term 3d printing too much because
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it's just not right we're not printing
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anything really it's making a part so
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and to describe that or to to kind of
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describe that there is no magic in those
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well there's a little bit of matching
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but there's not much magic actually what
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goes into the machine comes out of the
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machine so if you put plastic in it
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plastic record will come out it's not
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that you put plastic in it and all of a
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sudden you got a human ear that's not
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gonna happen but you may have to shape
25:54:00
of a human ear but it's still gonna be
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made out of plastic that went in so
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basically what it's doing it takes a big
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pile of something and accurately
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positions it with a digital file and
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that's what gives you to put the
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capabilities of making pretty much
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anything out of a pretty much any
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material and the beauty about that is if
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it makes it out of a digital file and
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not a mold of some sort so the
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flexibility is is you know fantastic you
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can print a alright now a cup in five
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minutes or in an hour let's say that way
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and you can do a gear on that same
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machine a little later and so that is
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really where the advantage of 3d
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printing
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yeah that the technology is basically
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unbelievable I am super surprised at the
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technologies they're out there we see it
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on the news we see you know people
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receiving 3d printed hands or or arms or
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things in that sense and if if I
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understand what you're saying is that
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the 3d printer itself may be specialized
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for medical but in reality it's the same
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type of 3d printer that's being used
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it's just the materials are different is
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that I mean is that what you're kind of
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saying right well yes no I mean any any
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printer can basically do medical
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components that you know and the
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material of course if there's a
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particular requirement an FTM machine
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for example cannot print metal when I
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say that there were some experiments for
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people using soldering stuff or not did
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we printed for the most part these are
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thermoplastics and but an SLS machine
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can definitely create metal parts the
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variety because it's basically nothing
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other than traditional sintering just
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here we're doing it with a laser so it's
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selective laser sintering and again
27:54:00
based on a digital file and not a shape
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so for those who are familiar with the
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sintering those were made out of
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I think paraffin powder shapes that then
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are being milled and then it's being
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baked for 24 or 48 hours whatever it
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needs for that molecular pound and in
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the laser sintering machine it does that
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a lot quicker with the laser Wow and
28:23:00
based upon a digital file again that
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does it layer by layer so yeah you know
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and it seems like the as we run into
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this is that the file itself is is one
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of the most important components it
28:36:00
seems like the design prior to that file
28:39:00
being sent to the printer it seems like
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that's a very important component yeah
28:44:00
and I think that's that's where our
28:46:00
services are really being effective and
28:49:00
being used by the customers that are
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either melt you know
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or you know don't have the software to
28:58:00
create certain files or they downloaded
29:00:00
something and it's corrupt it happens a
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lot or it's not good for the most part
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we use STL or obj files and the STL are
29:11:00
basically just skins so it's a skin of
29:15:00
that object that you're trying to print
29:16:00
and if that skin is hurt somewhere that
29:18:00
could be a little triangle that that's
29:20:00
missing or something that the triangle I
29:23:00
should just didn't work and it couldn't
29:24:00
create that that can cause issues for
29:28:00
printing and use you ship that somewhere
29:31:00
in or you send it somewhere and get a
29:34:00
print back and you're surprised that
29:35:00
doesn't look anything like you thought
29:37:00
it would and and that's that's really
29:39:00
where our services come in and make sure
29:42:00
that your file is correct in make a test
29:45:00
print or something even if necessary and
29:48:00
then they can go and have that produced
29:51:00
hmm and I know you do a lot of shows
29:56:00
what are some of the places that if our
29:58:00
listeners in this area or wherever
30:00:00
you're gonna be what are some of the
30:01:00
show you're going to be heading to in
30:05:00
the near future
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yeah to do shows as much as we can on
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the other hand it's also it's usually on
30:15:00
the weekends and sometimes time just
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doesn't allow the next one that's coming
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up is in March I think March yeah March
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24th and that's at the st. Pete College
30:27:00
Seminole campus and that's the maker and
30:30:00
Comic Con so we'll be there probably
30:33:00
have a couple of machines some of our
30:36:00
display things maybe even some robotic
30:39:00
stuff so see that's cool what when
30:45:00
you're at the shows what's like one of
30:46:00
the most common questions you get asked
30:48:00
well something already talked about this
30:51:00
oh is that gonna take forever
30:54:00
yeah and the answer of course is well it
30:56:00
takes an hour so you got to come back in
30:58:00
an hour and a half
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you know I know that you go to the shows
31:05:00
with not with really the idea of selling
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some of your art or some of your prints
31:09:00
but I know you remember you were telling
31:11:00
me that that there's times that people
31:12:00
want to buy some of the stuff you bring
31:17:00
people see something that they like
31:22:00
sometimes we can we can make that deal
31:25:00
sometimes we can't so I mean you know
31:30:00
most of those shows I really kind of or
31:32:00
especially this kind of show is for
31:35:00
makers and it's also the comic-con thing
31:38:00
for comics you know and all that stuff
31:41:00
so it's it's more about sharing the
31:45:00
enthusiasm for the 3d printing into
31:50:00
technology and and and kind of showing
31:52:00
showing off for show and what you're
31:54:00
doing and and and getting to see what
31:57:00
other people do as well and and also
31:59:00
just the out there which I think is that
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you know an important part as well but
32:05:00
then we just did that art show here
32:07:00
which was really about particular pieces
32:10:00
and of course things that we sell so
32:16:00
there it's a different approach I mean
32:18:00
people in many instances maybe don't
32:21:00
even care if this is a 3d print or not
32:24:00
I'm sure they don't I mean it's this
32:27:00
looks cool I want that you know how much
32:29:00
is that they don't care if it's a 3d
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print for us of course and and for
32:34:00
makers it's it's it's a big deal big
32:39:00
difference if it's a 3d print or not
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yeah
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well again I mean the good part about it
32:46:00
is that you know being able to get out
32:48:00
there be amongst the people in the
32:50:00
industry working and having people that
32:52:00
aren't used to seeing these kind of
32:54:00
pieces of equipment or how in-depth it
32:56:00
is or or how intricate it is it's good
32:59:00
it kind of helps spread the word because
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there are people out there that think
33:03:00
that free printing oh you just turn on a
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machine and and 3d print something then
33:07:00
there's people that know that go to the
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shows and they learn that it's not that
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easy I was one of those guys I mean
33:13:00
before we had gotten and
33:15:00
with you and gotten your 3d printer from
33:17:00
the news and technology I thought it was
33:19:00
it was fairly simple we're just gonna
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get a three Freeman we're gonna make
33:23:00
things you know and you know I was I was
33:26:00
surprised in the intricacies now I'm
33:29:00
used to it with your training and and
33:30:00
and showing us how to how the systems
33:32:00
were that it's it's not a deterrent but
33:35:00
it's not easy you just you know you have
33:37:00
to put the time in to get the right
33:39:00
product out as you said what goes in has
33:43:00
comes out so I'm glad that they have the
33:46:00
shows I'm glad that people are learning
33:47:00
about the 3d printing industry and and I
33:50:00
agree with you that it really shouldn't
33:53:00
be called printing because you're like
33:54:00
you said it's not you're not really
33:55:00
printing something you're making
33:57:00
something it's too late no you're
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absolutely right I think this is a very
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good point and of course any any a 3d
34:11:00
printing manufacturer will tell you that
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it will tell you otherwise that it's
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pretty much a plug-and-play but I'm you
34:19:00
know I got a I got a Warren or I want to
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let everybody know that tries to get
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into 3d printing there's a learning
34:26:00
curve evolves but this thing it's not
34:28:00
like a like an inkjet printer that you
34:31:00
plug in and then you start printing
34:32:00
color papers some people get lucky I
34:36:00
have to correct myself so that happens
34:38:00
every once in a while but I would say
34:39:00
for the most part it's not it's not that
34:41:00
plug and play it's got so many different
34:46:00
variables as we went through here over
34:49:00
the last 30 minutes that most people
34:52:00
don't know about and then they just keep
34:55:00
on plowing away and it's it's just not
34:58:00
doing what it's what they thought they
34:59:00
would do so it we helped we actually
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this is another thing that we offer to
35:05:00
is to printer repair to a certain degree
35:08:00
so people can come in here we can take a
35:10:00
quick peek at their machine and tell
35:14:00
them what to look for and and get them
35:19:00
back out there and happily printing from
35:22:00
that day on hopefully so we do that then
35:26:00
we have actually quite a bit of people
35:27:00
especially people that buy
35:29:00
it's and and 3d printed you know printer
35:33:00
kits that they assemble themselves or
35:35:00
printers that are relatively inexpensive
35:39:00
yeah I I I told great I think it's great
35:42:00
for people to experiment with it it's a
35:44:00
it's an awesome technology and it's fun
35:46:00
to you know be able to make anything you
35:50:00
know I know that there's websites and
35:51:00
you can download the STL files is what's
35:54:00
a printer needs and it's pretty cool to
35:56:00
be able to experiment and you know learn
35:59:00
about 3d printing even for kids I mean I
36:02:00
love when kids come in and they do a
36:04:00
tour of our facility and you probably
36:05:00
see it all it - I know you do shows at
36:08:00
schools and things like that you know
36:09:00
watching the kids faces when these 3d
36:11:00
printers are going you know you have to
36:14:00
print something pretty quick for the
36:15:00
kids otherwise they lose interest back
36:17:00
but but it is fun to watch their that
36:20:00
you know watch their faces see something
36:22:00
that wasn't there being created on this
36:24:00
plate of glass and it's really cool to
36:26:00
do so alright my friend well we are we
36:33:00
have reached and gone over our a lot of
36:35:00
time which is great because this is
36:37:00
always an interesting subject I know our
36:39:00
listeners and viewers are going to be
36:41:00
interested and finding out more about
36:43:00
your services or asking questions I can
36:47:00
tell you again
36:48:00
freez website is free dimension net
36:52:00
which is fr EE di M en si o n dotnet and
36:59:00
free would that be the best way for one
37:03:00
of our listeners or somebody to get in
37:05:00
touch with you just hit the contact or
37:06:00
you have a contact form on your page
37:16:00
yeah that's great I know you're you're
37:19:00
always got your 3d printers running
37:22:00
which is cool and I know you're always
37:25:00
working in there I mean you're one of
37:27:00
those guys you're kind of scared to
37:28:00
leave your office book cause you're
37:29:00
always printing something right you have
37:30:00
to have lunch delivered to you
37:42:00
not letting me I hear you my friend now
37:50:00
that's awesome but alright well listen I
37:53:00
appreciate your time today
37:54:00
I appreciate it going through the system
37:56:00
strolling through how the systems work
37:59:00
what's out there and what you can do to
38:01:00
help and I know I want to do a couple
38:03:00
shows with you as we progress because I
38:06:00
think that 3d printing everything that
38:09:00
you do I know you do CNC machines rapid
38:12:00
prototyping I know you do CAD design all
38:14:00
the things that you do is so important
38:16:00
for our listeners for our viewers
38:19:00
because it's kind of the start of their
38:21:00
idea it's kind of what they need to get
38:23:00
going to have something in their hand to
38:24:00
prove that their idea works and and you
38:27:00
kind of supply a lot of that so I think
38:29:00
it'd be great you know we'll get you on
38:31:00
the show several times and we'll talk
38:33:00
about you know certain subjects maybe
38:35:00
next time we'll talk about certain
38:36:00
things and kind of really drill into
38:38:00
them which could help our listeners and
38:40:00
viewers that would that be good yeah
38:43:00
well thanks a lot for having me - okay
38:50:00
sounds good man well you have a good
38:52:00
rescue day my friend and we'll catch you
38:53:00
next time on the event is launching
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network