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Carol chose kids over career. She took 13 years off of a lucrative career to be a full time Mom. She shares the benefits and challenges she faced in this role, how she was able to make that choice without repercussion….. or was she? After some research, prayer and long talks with her kids and hubby she enthusiastically decided it was time to head back into the workplace only to discover her choices and income and even opportunities to be considered had greatly decreased. She shares tips on how to overcome this challenge and keep close tabs on the invisible investment you made into your kids.

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there we go good morning welcome to the
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juice box mom's show it's early this is
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the earliest I've done a podcast well
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9:00 a.m. right but that's early for me
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because I'm still drinking coffee
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although I drink coffee in the afternoon
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- do you drink a lot of coffee Jen I
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don't i drink iced tea I see is my
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caffeine of choice I love it make it at
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home I'm always fascinated by the iced
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tea confuse yeah so like you have like
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got your tea bags and are using the like
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outside Sun pots that like grandmas in
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like the South used when they make those
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times sometimes they do but as an organ
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you don't have a lot of sense I have to
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make up other ways cuz I drink it when
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it's freezing in the middle of winter I
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just love it I'm just a Southern
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California girl living in Oregon so I
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need my iced tea oh I love that I we
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love iced tea - around here sweetie
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unsweetened my son especially because
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these keys not trying not to drink a lot
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of pop and so he recently though he'll
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go through like one of those jugs like
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the carry on gas can size jugs of iced
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tea in like a day so you know actually
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working on moderation obviously welcome
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to the show I'm so happy to have you I
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start all of my shows with a Prohm it's
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like a prayer and calm put together so I
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wrote a poem just for you are you ready
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yes and then just say a little prayer
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and I just ask God to guide our time and
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be in our words and wisdom so it would
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just be a little something to get us off
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to on the right start and on the right
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foot this morning so here's my poem that
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I wrote for you Michigan there once was
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a mom named Jen who recently had quite a
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win
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you see she used to have to work all day
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long she was much too tired to play but
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now she loves her life helping people
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grow new skin Thank You Jed for joining
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us today I'm so great looking here I'm
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just asking God to just bless our time
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I'm grateful for the story that he's
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written in your life and that I was able
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to be here this morning for iced tea and
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coffee I am just asking that he guide
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our words that they fall upon the ears
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of a mom that might need to hear them
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and know and grow in her own own story
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and I just asked it we are courageous
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and awesome and filled with fruits of
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the spirit and I just thank him and
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praise him for making us mamas because
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it's just magnificent Damon you see all
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right so again what we do on the show is
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I really just like to take the stories
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of what
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some might call ordinary moms and show
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the extraordinary in them because every
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mom is inventing motherhood in their own
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way up as they go along
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every mothering story is different
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everyone has highs and lows and crazies
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and all over the maps so what I'd like
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to start with is a little bit of your
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past don't bloom to him that four-letter
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word right what happened in my past but
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seriously like when you when you were
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younger what were the impressions of
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motherhood that you had from your own
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mom so mom's you know other motherhood
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mothering figures in your life like kind
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of what did you think this mom thing was
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gonna be about tell us a little bit
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about how you grew up okay I think that
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looking back at that time in my life is
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very so powerful because when I grew up
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as a child it was me and my sister my
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mom was blessed to be able to stay home
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with us and I just remember my mom being
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available too for my sister and I in
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whatever capacity that was you know she
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was my girl scout leader she picked us
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up from school she got to drop us off at
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school you know we got to come home when
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have snack around the table I mean it
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seems kind of like 50s when I'm talking
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about it but it does so great and you go
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do you like snack time after school and
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she just I think my mom was one of those
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ladies where you know she grew up in the
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50s and 60s and her mom had to work
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full-time and so my mom was constantly
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left at home with her brother to take
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care of them and cook and manage the
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house or be dropped off with multiple
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people all the time and they made it
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work but that's not what my mom wanted
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for her life as a mom so I think she
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tried her very very best to make it as
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special as possible for my sister and I
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which was wonderful but then when I had
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an idea of what motherhood was going to
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be like and what I foresaw and my future
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of being a mom because truly that I mean
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I loved working and I loved having
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dreams and aspiring just to certain
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things and allowing God kind of vision
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in our lives to work but at the same
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time in my mind I was like I just I want
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to be a mom I want to be available to my
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children this is before I even had my
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son so I had this idea of what that
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would look like but unfortunately
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sometimes that's not always the case and
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it's really hard to try to swallow
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that reality when you're like that was
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such a wonderful experience for myself
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and my sister and I want that for myself
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and my son but that's not a possibility
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right now that's a really hard thing to
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swallow so that's a little bit about
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kind of my passive how old is your son
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now
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then great surrounds me he's gone in
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fourth grade and he's nine and we just
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have one another thing that it's like
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you have an idea of what your family is
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going to be like right or what mother is
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going to be like having multiple
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children and sometimes that's just not
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what God so do you want having do you
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want a family
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did you just want one I counted I did
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yeah I did want to have more kids
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and I'm sure that my husband that I
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probably still could but sometimes life
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happens in the middle of trying to raise
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a family and it just seems like an
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impossible feat when you're looking at
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your reality of like for me personally I
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was just having to work outside of the
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home so much more than I had wanted and
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anticipated and I just was like I don't
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want to bring another little baby into
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the world when I'm having to our family
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like to look like this so we just
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decided I think not going to so tell us
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so those words life happens those were
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really loaded words right like so
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there's a lot in between that space
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right there so you became a mom it
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seemed now when you first found out you
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were pregnant was the plan that you
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would be able to stay home because you
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said you kind of always knew you wanted
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to you sound like one of those women
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that kind of had that I can't wait to be
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a mom and do all the things my mom did
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and have this which honestly those are
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fewer and farther between these days
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there's a lot more women that see
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children as kind of the next box to
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check the next step and then they come
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along like okay we married we have the
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puppy which we just had a whole
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conversation about and now we're gonna
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have kids go back to work and all these
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things right so there's not a lot of
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women much anymore like you said the 50s
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and 60s that are like I can't wait to
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grow up and be a mom I just want to cook
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and I just wanna clean and I just and
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this can be great right so but you sound
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like you aspire to that so it sounds
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like something happened in the middle so
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tell us a little bit about what you
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expected and with reality was of course
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so when I found out that I was pregnant
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we were planning on how we were planning
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to have Eliza at the time so we were
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working towards getting pregnant I had
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just turned 30 I had just finished
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college at Portland State so my husband
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and I got married really young and I
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helped kind of finish him get him
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through college his master's his
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teaching credential all of that so I
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worked and then I went back to school
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later in life so I just finished college
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I just no no I was having a Ledge
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digester and third be and just trying to
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think of different ways I knew that I
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knew I saw the writing on the wall that
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I needed to be able to contribute to the
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bottom line of our family essentially my
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husband's a teacher and he loves it and
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he's an amazing teacher unfortunately
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it's not the most lucrative career so
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it's sometimes very challenging to raise
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a family on that salary on its own good
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bad or indifferent that is the way that
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it is and so I had been looking for
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different ways that I could have
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flexibility utilize the gifts and
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talents that God has given me you know I
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love working and I love kind of I love
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entrepreneurship and I always knew that
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would be something that would be how God
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would use me in the workforce but I
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didn't know what that looked like so I
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launched a real estate career in 2007
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right when everything began to crack
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like the time and people always when
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they hear my story about buki wipes
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they're always like wait you started a
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business when a Booker wiping business
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in 2007 right when we're for our story
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we got very blessed because
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simultaneously it was also when all
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there was this huge scare about cold
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medications so they were all being like
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taken off the shelves and so there was
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face and but yeah it was that total like
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what are you doing starting a business
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right now
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you know so so real estate I can imagine
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was just as challenging yeah when I
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started it the market was thriving
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you know I could see okay I can I can
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work this around my life I mean of
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course real estate agents work very hard
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but you get to be the decider of how and
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fast you work when you work it's not the
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whole like drop my kid off at 6:00 a.m.
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pick him up at 6:00 p.m. situation like
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there'd be some flexibility and so that
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was really appealing to me and so yeah I
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started that and it didn't work out
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right like we had no idea
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it was going to be happening in this
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world and every single like every month
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went by and current real estate agents
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and homeowners and people I know what I
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won't ask you I want to talk to you sure
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so one of the things that I think is
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critical and overlooked and not
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discussed enough when moms decide going
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to start my own business going to do
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something right so they just say that
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sentence my own business in my opinion
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and experience there's actually a large
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period of Prayer decision-making
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planning advice and process that needs
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to go into that the biggest of which
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quite frankly is talking to your husband
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so I want you to share with me because
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you don't just like there's not like an
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Amazon guy that delivers a real estate
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business to your door right so you had
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to buy spend money work into that right
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you've got business cards a name
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building going doing and just like any
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business you're not generating money
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right away
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so there's this this this process so
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tell me about how you handled that
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decision when you finish college your
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husband's a teacher sounds like you knew
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right away you were gonna have to
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contribute to the bottom line and
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instead of saying great honey going out
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getting an 8 to 5 gonna be paying bills
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by next week rock and roll and grooving
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this can be great you said no actually I
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want to invest in myself I'm tell me
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about that conversation what was good
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about it what do you wish you'd done
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differently how'd that go
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sure yeah well I mean another piece of
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it was I was still working a job I had
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worked in the restaurant industry before
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at the time probably for 15 years it got
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me through getting my husband through
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college and then through me through
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college because I had that flexibility
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that clearly that's like the common
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denominator in my life I like that
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flexibility so I did have income coming
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in and I was working my business around
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my job and so I was working I was
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working 40 hours in the restaurant and I
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was probably working 3540 and that
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conversation with my husband
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Jenny okay see and that's the point that
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and that's why I wanted to pause and go
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back to that because I think so often on
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podcast I listen to blogs I read moms
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get these little pieces of the story so
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I love that we dug that out because the
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fact of the matter was you didn't just
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come to him and say that what you
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instead said was I'm bringing it I'm
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contributing I'd like to begin to take
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some of that and I'm going to pull out
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of other parts of our life and pour into
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starting my own business with the idea
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that Road etc etc we know how that goes
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but that critical piece being that's so
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often it's not just this thing that you
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just start I mean it's really this
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awkward uncomfortable space of doing or
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than you should have the energy to a lot
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of iced tea and all these things that go
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in trying to make that it's in and in
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the meat and typically something else
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it's a give-and-take I constantly tell
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people your life is a closet
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you're not gonna get 24 more hours in a
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day if you're gonna put something into
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the closet you got to take something out
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or else it's gonna take you forever to
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find an outfit in the morning so yeah
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Dean you were throwing a lot of stuff
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into your closet trying to make this so
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you were still working how long did you
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go at that I mean did you guys set a
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time like you have a year to make this
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work or you're done how did you manage
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this
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that's a good question
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we didn't set a time we you know going
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into it we didn't foresee the future
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right assist the market totally falling
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out so when we started it was like yes
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totally feasible people make a great
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living doing this and not that I was
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after that piece but it was more that
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you know for the amount of hours that
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I'm gonna put in maybe not in the
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beginning right cuz it's kinda like a
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747 just trying to get off the ground
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like you're just putting everything you
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can into something but then you do get
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to a point where you just have cruising
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altitude like you can cruise a little
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bit of course you're hustling and you're
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working but it was like that sweet spot
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of like okay if we keep going we will
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get there so we didn't have a time in
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parameter time per se but the market
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just kept getting worse and worse and
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worse and worse and we just were like
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okay we're we're out for now and you are
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great I love like I still everything and
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I was pregnant yes
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so here
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Alijah and a sweet little basket
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floating down the river and scoop him
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out and what happened so had you decided
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to stop the real estate business when he
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was born and continued stern or what
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where was that how'd that all work out
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yeah I was still working in the
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restaurant still building my business he
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was boring I mean I took some time off
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obviously not as much as I would have
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hoped to and wanted to and that was
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another conversation for another day
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because that's you know it was
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challenging there's a lot of Tears in
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the car let's just say that you were you
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postpartum Jen how was your how was your
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labor birth all that experience where
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you like did you need the nipple not see
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in the hospital or did you just
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immediately like know how to be the
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mother nature everything worked like
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what how did that go oh my gosh not
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everything never works right so yeah I
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mean it was definitely so different
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definitely postpartum you know my labor
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went in a complete different direction
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had to have an emergency c-section me
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too you know wait okay what have tell
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you really quick sidenote so I had to
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have c-section to write with my first
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one and I had the coolest experience
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happened just a few months ago because
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my doctor told me you know your doctor
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you totally have to rely on what they
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tell you I mean you are you already have
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some drugs in you your husband's like
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looking at you scared to death there's
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all these things you just you don't even
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know so you kind of just have to trust
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so my doctor had said to me you can't
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your pelvis is like tilted and small and
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weird and he won't even drop and give me
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all this stuff and I was like okay
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whatever I'm just like okay okay okay so
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fast-forward I take the advice I have
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one sexy section then two three every
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time for the supposed insane reason that
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my pelvis is all screwed up and I can't
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but meanwhile I mean absolutely I'm
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feeling like God wait why did you give
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me a baby I kick it out like if it was a
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child oh good right I'm totally feeling
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like a failure so I recently had a back
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injury and I had to go the doctor they
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ended up taking like all these skinny
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things whatever and Jen my pelvis is all
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whacked out I was so excited I was like
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yes I trusted a medical authority and
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they were tests right
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but it's the yeah I mean so much faith
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cuz you don't know but there was this
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like liberating freeing feeling that oh
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it wasn't me like I really did my best
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and there really did happen and so
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exactly like you said like it never goes
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like you think it will and there's all
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these invisible covered hidden hidden
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pieces that you honestly may never get
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the answers to and yet you are supposed
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to just put a bow on it and make a baby
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book and send it off to Shutterfly and
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move on to the toddler years this is
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hard
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ya know you so r you post partum i mean
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it was you were and digit were you
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medicated for it or not i was well
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that's hard to say I mean no I'm not
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necessarily I mean I struggled with
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depression in my life but I feel like I
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had gotten a pretty good handle on it
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and then you know after that whole thing
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and some other things that happened I've
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actually learned how to manage it
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without medication with some different
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supplements and just kind of learning
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learning in that process and so I guess
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at the time I uh said yes I'm medicated
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but now looking back I'm like that just
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didn't work for me clearly yeah and so I
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didn't - I'm medicated for about five
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years and it was I was like second my
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second baby in before I was actually you
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know you need something so I went on I
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think it was like some derivative of
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Prozac like look sateen or something
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like that for like four four or five
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years and then I just called Turkey that
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one day and and the amazing thing is Jen
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I hadn't even totally found Jesus yet
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and I still cold turkey did so I went to
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like other ways of coping because I was
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just like I I don't want to do this
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anymore
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and then slowly over time my faith grew
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and I did because you're right like you
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have to have some method you cannot
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there is no stress-free life you know
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depression the enemy is lurking
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everywhere and constantly wants to
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devour you and you know my dad is always
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saying that you can't fix the wing of an
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airplane mid-flight like you have to be
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prepared before you get that 747 off the
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ground of how you're gonna handle it so
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you know I I think we all
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different coping mechanisms but I just
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wanted to touch on that because I think
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that depression the medication the
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diagnosing and you know how we all
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handle it it's so different it sounds
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like you and I are kind of in the same
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camp of there's a season where maybe you
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need it and then I think that women
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should be working incredibly hard to get
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off of any antidepressant as much as
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they went on to it recognizing that yes
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their life will change yes their
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emotions and their hormones may change
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but you might never gonna find your you
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know pot of gold happy rainbow unicorn
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lollipop day where nothing goes wrong so
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you have to just be able to manage that
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in a healthy way on your own yeah
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absolutely and I mean if it would have
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been really effective for me and worked
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for me I may have been because I was on
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it for maybe ten years before that and
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it just it wasn't and I went into a
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naturopathic physician and she's like
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you were on this amount and it's not
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working for you and you're in this type
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of a rut and I'm like yeah so we did it
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you treated it in different I feel like
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we should millions we should probably do
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a whole nother podcast about right but
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yeah so okay so where were we
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okay so so Elijah was born you were
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still juggling and then when did you
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ultimately decide to shut down the real
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estate business when he was three later
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yeah yeah so I mean it was quite the
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process like I don't give up easily I
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keep pushing through I mean even though
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things aren't working out I'm like one
19:04
I'm just you know I believe that at the
19:08
time got him you know dropped this in my
19:10
lap he had given me a wonderful mentor a
19:12
man of God that poured life into me and
19:15
I would be forever grateful for him but
19:17
looking back I think that God had a
19:19
different plan for me clearly and he has
19:22
used every experience every
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discouragement every frustration every
19:26
looking up with him going God where are
19:28
you what are you doing moment to truly
19:30
prepare me for what he had in store and
19:33
it just doesn't always make sense at the
19:35
time and sometimes those times can be a
19:37
decade a or 15 years and you're like I
19:40
know there's going to be something I
19:41
just don't know what it is and why
19:43
is happening and I look back and all of
19:45
these things it's like they're a little
19:53
bit so pick fun to experience absolutely
19:56
yeah I mean I see that too we I recently
19:59
was a summer camp and our camp burst was
20:02
proverbs 3:5 through 6 which was you
20:05
know do not depend on your own
20:06
understanding seek as well and he will
20:08
show you which path to take and we kind
20:10
of dug that apart all week and there's
20:11
so much in life where if you truly try
20:14
to make sense of it all a you will go
20:17
crazy be you never will write and see
20:19
your sense is not God sense I mean
20:21
that's one of the things that I tell the
20:23
kids I love to use analogies you know me
20:24
everything becomes a story or a fairy
20:26
tale or something and I will always tell
20:28
the kids I'm like think about like a
20:30
ladybug right like what that ladybug
20:32
knows and does all day and things and
20:33
now think about how you think right and
20:35
that and the difference between those
20:37
two types of beings and then imagine
20:39
your life and then imagine what God like
20:42
you can't even fathom the things that
20:44
he's doing in the way that he's using
20:46
your life and if you're lucky you might
20:48
get a little glimpse so it sounds like
20:50
you over time through that process right
20:54
the period of waiting of trying so you
20:56
went back into the restaurant business
20:58
and you worked there for what sounds
21:00
like what about five years and God
21:02
started to give you some little bits of
21:03
what he was up to
21:05
yeah absolutely I think each process was
21:11
like getting more uncommon comfortable
21:13
getting me used to like fully trusting
21:16
him I love that you brought that verse
21:17
up because that has been what I needed
21:21
to hold on to since I was a child God
21:23
knows that that is where I struggle I
21:24
struggle fully trusting him and so
21:27
Elijah
21:30
where's that bracelet I was trust him so
21:33
that is kind of where he's got me so
21:35
yeah as I stayed in the restaurant
21:36
industry for or well I just finished in
21:41
April so quite a while after I finished
21:46
up my real estate business and just kind
21:51
of Zoar just those moments I'd like
21:53
let's just keep going make sure
21:55
everybody saves we have a roof over our
21:58
head we're able to enjoy life here in
22:03
there right
22:04
so that's kind of the place that I had
22:05
been for a while yeah no no I'm
22:08
accepting it and that's hard to accept
22:09
but oh absolutely I mean I think there's
22:12
that place of complete and total
22:14
servitude where every day feels like the
22:18
same thing over and over I will trust
22:20
you I will try here I go one day at a
22:23
time and letting your family watch that
22:26
manifest and then not bringing that home
22:28
to you recognizing that it's a choice
22:30
and what you're choosing is that
22:31
stability right now
22:33
and again depending on his timing to
22:35
reveal when the right time is for what's
22:38
next and so what's next you know has
22:41
been exciting and I am just adored I
22:43
mean we've only met not even it was
22:45
probably back in April because I think
22:48
you maybe a little bit before that
22:49
because you were just beginning to jump
22:52
into this new venture that you're on now
22:55
with Rodan and fields so I'd love for
22:57
you to share first of all let's just
22:59
start with how how you made the leap
23:02
right because you've done this once
23:03
before and it didn't go so well
23:04
so you tried the real estate business so
23:08
how again did you approach the idea of
23:11
here's where we are did you have money
23:13
set aside because it's an investment to
23:15
start in those types of direct sale
23:17
business you know so how did that
23:19
transition go how did you prepare for it
23:24
sure it was one of those things where it
23:27
was a total God moment you know I had
23:30
never heard of Rodan and fields come
23:35
with me that I did
23:36
and it to join Elijah and she was a
23:40
fabulous lady I saw how she poured life
23:42
and to thee he's kid watched her journey
23:45
of what she was doing I was like oh this
23:48
lady is building a team of women this
23:51
looks like some what fun I've never
23:55
heard of this company before I love skin
23:57
care how have I not heard about it just
24:01:00
kind of watched her journey in WA one
24:02:00
day about six months later I just
24:04:00
messaged her and I said hey girl I want
24:06:00
to learn about this business I'm looking
24:08:00
for something I've always wanted to run
24:10:00
something out of my home around my
24:12:00
family's life of course like I want to
24:14:00
work hard but it's I don't want it to be
24:16:00
this cookie cutter life that has been
24:19:00
presented to me he's so often I just
24:20:00
don't want that so she was like hey I'm
24:25:00
a business and I was like heck yes I can
24:27:00
so I jumped on on their event and I kind
24:30:00
of just learned about the six of this
24:33:00
company these doctors that had created
24:36:00
Proactiv just learn a lot about just the
24:39:00
opportunity that this presents for
24:41:00
people of course I was paralyzed with
24:47:00
fear right because of the real estate
24:48:00
situation I put a lot of time a lot of
24:51:00
money a lot of I don't want to say hope
24:54:00
because I put my hope in Jesus but a lot
24:56:00
of Hope and like this is gonna be the
24:58:00
thing that's gonna allow us to live the
25:01:00
life that we want that I can be a mom I
25:02:00
can still do that but we can still kind
25:04:00
of keep moving forward in our lives so
25:06:00
I'll be honest like I sat there in fear
25:09:00
for a long time and I believe that God
25:12:00
dropped it in my lap but again that try
25:15:00
factor comes in and it's like like what
25:17:00
am I asking right and so my husband is
25:20:00
so supportive and he's live like the
25:23:00
Jenna you just need to do it you just
25:27:00
need to do it God brought it to you just
25:29:00
do it
25:30:00
and so we prayerfully obviously you know
25:33:00
took a few weeks to think about it we
25:36:00
had not prepared financially to be
25:38:00
honest with you I mean the great way
25:39:00
about direct sales is that Oliver Zarin
25:41:00
is not quite as
25:42:00
yes pause we had not prepared
25:45:00
financially because I love that because
25:49:00
that's truly I mean you talked about
25:51:00
like trusting God right well so often we
25:55:00
go I totally trust you but I've got my
25:57:00
little back-up plan over here right in
25:59:00
case this really isn't from you just in
26:01:00
case right and so and I say all the time
26:04:00
you can business plan yourself away but
26:06:00
it's never gonna work as good as God's
26:07:00
plan and so oddly there's this space of
26:10:00
you know well how do I plan how do I
26:13:00
trust how do I do it all and the reality
26:16:00
of it is I don't think you can what you
26:18:00
can do is take each opportunity one of
26:21:00
the greatest lessons that I loved
26:23:00
receiving from our pastor not long ago
26:26:00
was the idea that everything you have is
26:28:00
from God all you're doing is deciding
26:29:00
when to give it back to him and so that
26:32:00
feeling of we have this money I have
26:35:00
this idea I have like Lord if you want
26:38:00
me to have this then we'll figure it out
26:40:00
and and that's truly when he gets to do
26:42:00
the most amazing things in your life
26:43:00
because then all of a sudden like this
26:45:00
check comes in or this gift comes in or
26:48:00
this opportunity drops in your lap and
26:50:00
you just know that that is his
26:52:00
appreciation his gratitude his light
26:55:00
over you and that you can just feel that
26:57:00
he's right there and if you constantly
26:59:00
have made space next to you for the the
27:02:00
what if then that keeps him from you
27:05:00
that keeps that distance there and then
27:06:00
you can't feel what he's really doing so
27:08:00
I I love and I know it trust me I take a
27:11:00
lot of hits for this I know it's not the
27:12:00
best business advice don't plan just go
27:14:00
but truly I think that the fact that you
27:18:00
had your husband support you prayed your
27:20:00
way through you made the decision you
27:22:00
didn't necessarily know what was going
27:23:00
to come next and and if it was going to
27:26:00
work or not you knew who you were and
27:29:00
who you were and what you were capable
27:31:00
of and that he is not going to let you
27:33:00
go hungry ya know and whoever has keeper
27:41:00
has
27:45:00
go ahead so you've jumped on with Rodan
27:47:00
and fields it sounds like you only took
27:49:00
a couple of week we're breaking up what
27:51:00
did you say oh I was gonna say so let's
27:53:00
pause you know what I'm getting a notice
27:56:00
that your bandwidth is low so I'm gonna
27:58:00
stop the recording and call hold on I'm
28:02:00
gonna call you right back so that we can
28:04:00
finish up without the breaking okay so
28:08:00
for about three weeks you'd obviously
28:10:00
talk to your husband I love that that
28:11:00
was a part of it there was a lot of
28:12:00
prayer involved you were ready to take
28:14:00
the leap he was super supportive so
28:17:00
how'd that first day feel you were like
28:19:00
I just quit my job well I did it I
28:23:00
didn't quit my job I this so this
28:26:00
happened two years ago so I jumped into
28:28:00
this my business and I worked it
28:30:00
alongside of my job because the essence
28:34:00
of where our family was is I still
28:36:00
needed to bring in this thing up but it
28:41:00
still was a leap of faith though because
28:42:00
like we said I did not plan financially
28:44:00
I had a little bit of money set aside
28:46:00
for like a four-day trip for our family
28:49:00
and my husband looked at me and he said
28:51:00
we don't need you on that trip you need
28:53:00
to start your business and yeah crazy
28:56:00
and I get teary-eyed just thinking about
28:58:00
it and cuz lovely was like direct sales
29:02:00
you don't have to have a huge investment
29:03:00
I mean my investment was like a thousand
29:05:00
dollars too and for us at the time that
29:07:00
was a lot of money we had just been
29:10:00
struggling for so long and it was the
29:12:00
way that it was and we accepted it but I
29:14:00
mean it was a huge jump for us but he
29:17:00
said you're gonna take that money and
29:18:00
you're gonna start this business and I
29:19:00
truly believe that God dropped this in
29:21:00
our lab as a family you're gonna take
29:23:00
this thing and you're gonna run with it
29:24:00
because I believe in you
29:26:00
and I did just what you said where like
29:28:00
I and I coach my team the same way we're
29:30:00
like you don't have to feel like you
29:31:00
have to be circle prepared and know
29:33:00
everything and have all this information
29:36:00
you just need to know that like you need
29:38:00
to believe in yourself even this
29:40:00
opportunity that you've been given and
29:42:00
just start and just jump and we will
29:45:00
learn as we go and I believe that that's
29:47:00
life every everything we do in life is
29:49:00
what we do we just jump and we trust and
29:52:00
I mean we don't jump with being you know
29:55:00
we jump with wisdom I guess is it right
29:57:00
oh there's always that direction right
29:58:00
it's like jump with your heart but take
30:00:00
your brain with you and that's that
30:02:00
that's the wisdom piece of it that's the
30:04:00
experience that's the moment of going I
30:07:00
believe that there's something good here
30:09:00
and I believe that God will show it to
30:10:00
me and if you start with that then you
30:13:00
can find it in every situation and when
30:15:00
you focus on that because we become what
30:17:00
we focus on and we become what we think
30:19:00
about and so through that process from I
30:22:00
mean it sounds like you had two years of
30:24:00
working still exhausted coming at home
30:28:00
tired and then you decided to go you
30:30:00
could finally go full-time into a tenant
30:32:00
fields what was that switch like for you
30:36:00
going from because I mean I gotta be I
30:38:00
got a speak honestly my experience right
30:41:00
sure I really like to work I like that I
30:44:00
have somewhere to go that I have people
30:46:00
the things I can do especially now that
30:48:00
my kids are getting older and more
30:49:00
independent and want to fly the coop I
30:51:00
like closing the door behind him and
30:53:00
going great you have a good day and not
30:55:00
sitting there like oh my gosh what am I
30:57:00
gonna do all day I'm sad and my kids you
30:59:00
know I love that I have another place
31:01:00
where I use my gifts and talents and do
31:04:00
things and so I love to work and I like
31:06:00
the division of that because one of the
31:08:00
things that was honestly really hard for
31:09:00
me when I was at bogie wipes business is
31:12:00
that I constantly brought it home for me
31:13:00
which is kind of similar to the direct
31:15:00
sales idea I now have to work in very
31:18:00
defined moments very defined times this
31:21:00
is when I work this is when I don't work
31:23:00
and I actually don't mix the two anymore
31:24:00
and I hear a lot of direct sales talking
31:27:00
about and I'm just you know being a
31:29:00
hundred percent honest that you can have
31:30:00
it all you can be home use your kids you
31:33:00
can work you got you know you doing
31:34:00
kitchen chatter and while you baby on
31:36:00
your hip and all these things and I'm
31:37:00
not a fan of that philosophy so I want
31:40:00
to understand from you how do you manage
31:42:00
that
31:43:00
how does your work schedule and the idea
31:45:00
that you are an entrepreneur now you
31:47:00
have your own business it's in your home
31:48:00
it's constantly there it's on your phone
31:50:00
it's in your mind
31:51:00
tell us how you process what's a
31:53:00
schedule like how do you manage that
31:55:00
space especially in the summer which
31:58:00
you're in right now which you know
31:59:00
obviously during the school year it
32:00:00
might be a little bit easier but um
32:02:00
explain to us how how does Jen work how
32:04:00
does that how does the magic happen sure
32:06:00
well I would love to say that I have it
32:08:00
all figured out but I don't
32:09:00
well we're done here I'm sorry yes let's
32:17:00
just keep it real um I definitely think
32:19:00
just having intentionality is huge and
32:22:00
so I'm learning because it's a new thing
32:25:00
for me
32:26:00
and even I mean I've been running my
32:27:00
business for two years so it's been you
32:30:00
know I've learned as we've gone but
32:32:00
definitely since I put ready job in
32:34:00
April till now my main focus is you know
32:38:00
obviously my family but as far as work
32:40:00
goes it's my business and so yeah it's
32:42:00
hard there are it's hard to make to find
32:43:00
clear lines but I definitely take a look
32:47:00
at my week the great thing about it and
32:48:00
why I love it so much as it is flexible
32:50:00
right so I take a look at my week on
32:52:00
Sunday night I look at what we have
32:54:00
going as a family you know it is summer
32:56:00
so what does that look like for Elijah's
32:57:00
schedule and my husband's a teacher and
32:59:00
a coach and so his schedule during the
33:01:00
summer that's always changing and even
33:03:00
during that during the year it's always
33:04:00
changing depending on what season he's
33:06:00
into that sort of thing so we take a
33:08:00
look at our peak and I go okay this is
33:10:00
what we have on the schedule and then I
33:12:00
am really intentional about carving out
33:14:00
30 minutes here an hour here two hours
33:17:00
here and carving out that time for
33:19:00
myself because I'm choosing my at that
33:23:00
time I'm choosing my family so because
33:25:00
this is a way that we're going to be
33:26:00
able to continue to have a life to live
33:29:00
because without this to be honest I
33:31:00
don't really know what that would look
33:33:00
like at this time at least and so yeah I
33:36:00
mean it's hard those are hard things to
33:38:00
balance for sure because I do run my
33:40:00
business off of my phone and it's with
33:41:00
me everywhere so it's being intentional
33:44:00
about saying hey I'm in the car with my
33:45:00
kid we're going river we just my
33:47:00
yesterday um you know I'm just I'm not
33:50:00
gonna check things I'm gonna get back
33:51:00
home and it's gonna be 7:30 Elijah's
33:53:00
gonna be in the shower and while he's
33:54:00
getting ready for bed I'm gonna check on
33:56:00
my stuff and it's hard and do I always
33:59:00
do it right
34:00:00
I don't I don't there are moments where
34:02:00
sometimes things have to have a
34:04:00
conversation we have to have a
34:06:00
conversation now with my team or
34:07:00
something but at the same time I keep my
34:11:00
family in the loop it's all a family
34:12:00
business and I don't ever want my son to
34:16:00
feel the pressures of it by any means
34:17:00
but I want him to know that he's on my
34:18:00
team my husband's on my team we're all
34:20:00
on it we're all in this
34:22:00
together and when we do that I think
34:25:00
that it's fun like it gets us excited
34:27:00
hey you guys we're working on stuff this
34:29:00
week or we're pushing for a goal this
34:31:00
week and so you know maybe Tuesday night
34:33:00
it's gonna look different than maybe it
34:34:00
normally does but we all get to be a
34:37:00
part of that when we all get to
34:38:00
celebrate so small I did a podcast a
34:43:00
couple shows ago with a friend of mine
34:47:00
named Susan and she was like this isn't
34:49:00
my business like this is everybody's
34:51:00
business my kids know who I mean with
34:53:00
today they come home from school and I'm
34:54:00
like mom how's that website going and
34:56:00
its own so buy this today and all this
34:58:00
stuff and I was like that is so great
35:00:00
that you make the kids a part of it and
35:03:00
I know for me I recently started doing
35:05:00
that with my kids and it's actually I'm
35:07:00
not so much about my work because I
35:08:00
actually they know very little I mean
35:11:00
they know mom like does stuff with other
35:13:00
moms and helps with inventions and stuff
35:14:00
like that but they don't really fully
35:16:00
understand my day-to-day stuff but what
35:19:00
I have had started to do is with my
35:20:00
phone because they would always be like
35:23:00
why are you on your phone what do you do
35:24:00
I mean once they get older my kids would
35:26:00
say things to me and so now we I've sat
35:29:00
them down I've become proactive and said
35:31:00
to them look actually I was texting you
35:33:00
know your dad about this or actually I
35:35:00
was responding to your friend about your
35:37:00
playdate Saturday or actually I was like
35:39:00
I just I full-disclosure like I don't
35:41:00
have a password on my phone they can
35:43:00
pick it up at any time they can read
35:44:00
through my messages they can see what
35:45:00
I'm doing all day long and it's become
35:48:00
this space where they've really begun to
35:50:00
understand that Mommy uses that device
35:52:00
to make our lives better now there's a
35:55:00
premise beside it too and this rule goes
35:57:00
both ways and I don't know if you do
35:59:00
this at all but this is what I've done
36:00:00
with my kids is if I'm standing in the
36:02:00
kitchen and I'm checking a message or
36:04:00
sending an email or something of that
36:05:00
sort and a kid walks up and starts
36:07:00
talking to me and then it's like mom I'm
36:09:00
talking to you I go okay wait a second
36:11:00
like I was standing here doing this you
36:13:00
walked up you're not on fire nothing is
36:15:00
bleeding there you know there is a
36:17:00
porcupine needles coming from your
36:18:00
eyeballs wrist Nikki deep breaths but
36:21:00
that goes both ways if I'm in a
36:22:00
conversation and I'm with the kids and
36:24:00
I'm with the family and my phone pings I
36:26:00
don't get a go oh wait over here that's
36:28:00
not fair so there's there's a distinct
36:31:00
policy with the presence of the moment
36:34:00
that you're in and
36:35:00
who thinks they're more important at
36:36:00
that moment and so I've really begun to
36:38:00
teach my kids some of that I've taken my
36:41:00
laptop off my kitchen counter I truly
36:42:00
only work in my office anymore but my
36:44:00
phone and my device I mean as much as I
36:46:00
think every mom would love to say oh no
36:48:00
I never have it my kids like your kids
36:51:00
are gonna be raised using that device
36:52:00
you have to work to use that device the
36:55:00
biggest key is presence intentionality I
36:57:00
love that word
36:59:00
and then advocating yesterday I talked
37:01:00
to a mom who talked a lot about
37:03:00
advocating for her kids and the only way
37:05:00
she knows how to advocate for what's on
37:07:00
their heart and what they truly need is
37:08:00
by listening to them and being present
37:10:00
and recognizing why aren't you eating
37:12:00
your corn tonight you love corn and the
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only way to do that is to be present at
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the dinner table because if you're on
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your phone you're not gonna notice they
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didn't eat their corn there's so much
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that's involved in that and just like
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you said it is not there's no right and
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wrong way there's your way there's what
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works for you there's what Elijah needs
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there's and then there's that inner
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voice that you know you and I know as
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God to be guiding us and showing us and
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go and look over here this needs your
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attention let that go and so when you
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can put your priorities in those orders
37:42:00
that makes it very easy to decide what
37:44:00
to do next in that moment because what
37:47:00
you did what you might do what you could
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do what you're thinking about doesn't
37:49:00
matter what actually matters is what
37:51:00
you're doing next yes so there's that
37:52:00
moment of I learned something today and
37:54:00
next I'm gonna do this and that
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transparency with your kids I screwed up
37:58:00
today I need help with this I should
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have done this better I'm sorry kids
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love that thrive on that need that it
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role models grace and forgiveness and
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mercy and and really beautiful heart
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skills that they are going to need in
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every single relationship in their life
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because they're gonna need it as much as
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we do so I think that's that's like the
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best way to manage it so tip I heard
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from you is Sunday's you sit down you
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schedule your week how many hours a week
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do you think you're working right now
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Jen I would say anywhere between 20 and
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25 awesome way better than the 75 you
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were working five years ago yes much
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much pending
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I know there are weeks when I
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life-changing yep yeah absolutely and
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it's all about that our trade off
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because you know people think that money
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I mean the greatest gift that you can
38:53:00
get and give is time and so when you're
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trading your time for that income
38:57:00
there's that priority space of what do I
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need this income for what am I using it
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for how much do I really need versus how
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much do I want and then how much of my
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time can I give away from my family I
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mean people sometimes will ask me oh I
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got to take you a coffee and pick your
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brain about blah blah blah and I've come
39:13:00
up with this line that's been so great
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for me I'm just like I have to be paid
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to be away from my family and I know
39:19:00
that maybe sounds selfish but that
39:21:00
simple concept of I have to be paid to
39:25:00
be away from my family this is the
39:26:00
season that I'm in I am a leader and in
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this household and there are people that
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count on me and you need my attention
39:34:00
and time and my brain and other spaces I
39:36:00
have to be paid for that so that my
39:37:00
family can have some sort of house
39:39:00
cleaning service not doing because
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that's my job so Jen do you have
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anything you would do over if you could
39:52:00
do you have any moments any thoughts
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things you wish you you wish you could
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have might unknown or just what you've
39:57:00
learned in those moments where you look
40:00:00
back and went hmm probably shouldn't
40:02:00
handle that um I think for me what it
40:09:00
really comes to is not looking up at God
40:13:00
and saying what are you doing I don't
40:14:00
understand or where are you God you know
40:17:00
I think the last 15 years have been a
40:22:00
very challenging dark place in the sense
40:26:00
of life did not work out in the way that
40:28:00
I anticipated it in so many different
40:30:00
ways and I regret looking up him looking
40:34:00
up and you know because I look I know
40:39:00
that he was right there I know that
40:42:00
every single moment every discouragement
40:44:00
every little victory of what every
40:48:00
moment of grace was him just preparing
40:51:00
me for what he hasn't
40:53:00
from her family and it is so different
40:56:00
than what I thought it would be but I
40:58:00
look back and it's better and I'm so
41:00:00
dang grateful so doing grateful I can't
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even say it
41:03:00
and I crazy I feel that sense of just
41:08:00
there's like this space in my life of
41:11:00
about five or six years that were dark
41:13:00
for me as well and I don't know about
41:15:00
you but I'm gonna tear up I sometimes
41:17:00
look at pictures of my kids and I'm like
41:19:00
I don't remember that like that's
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somebody else's family like I don't even
41:22:00
feel like I was there like I see my face
41:25:00
and I'm holding my child but I have no
41:27:00
personal recollection of experiencing
41:30:00
that because my soul was craving so many
41:33:00
other things than what God had asked me
41:37:00
to manage and therefore my ability to
41:40:00
seek joy and and enjoyment and feel
41:44:00
grateful was so far gone and because of
41:47:00
that I mean it pushed me into this space
41:50:00
of trying so much in every moment when I
41:54:00
feel the spinning and the swirling and
41:56:00
the thinking and the doing starting of
41:57:00
just stopping and going pictures are
41:59:00
being taken right now like and I don't
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mean literal I mean right Emory's or be
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moments moments are happening and you
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are here and this is now and this is
42:08:00
what God has brought to you and what he
42:10:00
needs you to do I'm such a believer that
42:12:00
what needs you in his story and in your
42:14:00
life it's gonna find you and it's not
42:16:00
gonna knock once it's not going twice
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it's gonna keep knocking until you
42:19:00
answer the door and if you just open the
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door and let it in and love it which is
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all he's asked us to do with anything
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anyway he brings us if you just open the
42:27:00
door let it in and love it so much
42:29:00
blossom so much frozen all of a sudden
42:31:00
you picked your head up and you're in
42:32:00
this huge field of sunflowers like I was
42:36:00
so busy planting all these and then you
42:37:00
go oh wow and then you just you just get
42:40:00
back to planting the one you're at and
42:41:00
when you're on and you look around and
42:43:00
and there's so much beauty and
42:45:00
magnificent and and when you get to that
42:48:00
spot where the soil is hard and the Sun
42:50:00
has gone away you can still look up and
42:52:00
know you're in a field of sunflowers and
42:54:00
I mean if this this feeling of looking
42:57:00
back at knowing that and I think that
42:58:00
the encouragement that you would bring
43:00:00
to a mom who might be in that place like
43:03:00
you and I were of that darkness of that
43:05:00
just going through the motion
43:07:00
not what I expected not what I needed
43:09:00
faith-filled or otherwise you know just
43:11:00
feeling that space of like I don't
43:13:00
understand and the encouragement in your
43:15:00
story of hang on there's something more
43:17:00
there's something immeasurably more and
43:20:00
better coming what advice would you give
43:23:00
a mom who might be considering going
43:24:00
into a direct sales program who's
43:26:00
working right now maybe in that forty
43:27:00
over a week job what are a couple of
43:29:00
tips that you would say as she's
43:31:00
considering a transition like that sure
43:34:00
I would say well I mean if you feel like
43:40:00
it's using you're being led to that
43:42:00
definitely take a look
43:43:00
I think there's we always have these
43:45:00
what ifs right what if I fail what if
43:47:00
it's too hard what if I can't do it just
43:51:00
trust yourself to know that you probably
43:53:00
can okay and it's very it's not a hard
43:56:00
business it's a pretty simple business
43:57:00
make sure that you are teamed up with an
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awesome leader with a wonderful team of 44:02:00 men and women that can help you and lead 44:05:00 you and guide you because I think that 44:07:00 that is very very powerful place rapes 44:10:00 we just need that inspiration we need 44:13:00 those resources we need somebody that's 44:15:00 already walks the path well and I think 44:18:00 also I'm here I am telling you what your 44:20:00 advice should be but I notice I mean I 44:22:00 see a lot of direct sales I mean I have 44:24:00 friends that are in this and one of the 44:26:00 things that I see is the different 44:28:00 styles because I see them in my facebook 44:30:00 feed and I see the way people approach 44:32:00 it and you know look at this is finding 44:34:00 someone who is genuinely motivated by 44:37:00 the same things as you so if they're 44:39:00 encouraging you to join your team so 44:41:00 that you can have more time with your 44:42:00 family 44:43:00 but then the first day you say to them 44:45:00 or you consider saying I can't be at 44:47:00 that meeting my kids have something 44:49:00 going on and they freak out they're not 44:51:00 motivated by the same things as you so 44:53:00 if their posts are all look how much 44:55:00 money you can make look at all the free 44:57:00 product you can get look at the travel 44:59:00 you can have or you know I mean and if 45:01:00 that's what motivates you then that's 45:03:00 the space that you're in for whatever is 45:05:00 happening in the circumstance of your 45:06:00 life but genuinely looking into if 45:09:00 you're saying this is what I'm gonna get 45:11:00 but as soon as I say that's important to 45:13:00 me and I need it that doesn't match it 45:14:00 like you see where I mean like I 45:16:00 sometimes 45:17:00 these carrots that are being thrown out 45:18:00 and then people grab on and then you're 45:21:00 like just kidding actually you have to 45:22:00 make some money I mean there's like this 45:24:00 space you know the honesty and the 45:26:00 transparency behind it all yes yeah I 45:29:00 love that I agree with that 45:30:00 wholeheartedly because yeah I mean it 45:34:00 ultimately is your business like right 45:36:00 you get to decide what that looks like 45:37:00 if you want it to look like you want to 45:39:00 work a few hours a week perfect if you 45:41:00 want to you know work 20 hours a week 45:43:00 create whatever you want I love that I 45:45:00 think it is it is about you and it 45:47:00 should always be about you and what you 45:50:00 want out of whatever it is that you're 45:51:00 doing absolutely yeah so last question 45:53:00 before we wrap up what is floating your 45:56:00 mom boat right now so meaning we know 45:59:00 you love iced tea are you reading any 46:00:00 books that you can't put down have you 46:02:00 recently discovered an approach to 46:04:00 parenting that's like rocking your world 46:06:00 and getting your kid to change his 46:08:00 underwear daily and clean his room you 46:10:00 know like what is something going on 46:13:00 your marriage that's like yeah we should 46:15:00 have done this before I mean what's 46:16:00 going on it's just awesome right now and 46:18:00 good that you're learning and growing in 46:21:00 um that's question I think it comes to 46:27:00 all stuff that we've talked about God is 46:29:00 just saying girl you got to trust me and 46:32:00 that's in every single thing it is and 46:36:00 so that's just been the place that I've 46:39:00 been in designed as a teacher so he's 46:41:00 been home a lot this summer and we've 46:43:00 all been together and that has been 46:44:00 wonderful but sometimes challenging it 46:48:00 has not the battle I think gods they 46:49:00 know more it's just that I think that's 46:54:00 what's rock and my mom boat is just like 46:56:00 finding the joy and trusting him and 46:58:00 honestly I maybe have had such a 47:00:00 fabulous time together we've just you 47:04:00 can't always be outside so we just been 47:06:00 doing a lot of playing tennis together 47:07:00 and bike rides and walking and just 47:09:00 getting out and moving and just enjoying 47:11:00 life together it's we need more of those 47:14:00 really simple moments I'm all about 47:16:00 simplicity I really really am so awesome 47:18:00 yeah awesome thank you Thank You Jenn I 47:20:00 love what you shared great encouragement 47:23:00 for moms through many of what they're 47:25:00 you know embarking upon the reality 47:28:00 between what you say 47:29:00 you feel what actually happens life 47:31:00 rarely goes according to plan yes thank 47:34:00 God for that 47:35:00 right my fear my plan was not gonna go 47:39:00 anywhere good so I'll just go ahead and 47:41:00 take this one so thank you Dad I 47:43:00 appreciate your time and best of luck 47:46:00 with Rodan and fields and everything 47:47:00 you're doing I mean it looks like 47:49:00 correct amazing I love seeing you 47:51:00 growing in it and thriving in it and 47:53:00 I'll definitely make sure to share a 47:54:00 little bit more about who you are and 47:56:00 what you're up to when this goes live 47:58:00 which will probably be in just a couple 47:59:00 weeks not too long I can't wait and 48:01:00 Thank You Manny for reaching now I just 48:03:00 I love your spirit I love your hearts 48:05:00 for people for moms for children for the 48:08:00 Lord I just am so blessed by you and 48:10:00 like I said you were unit said we just 48:13:00 met recently this year but I I feel like 48:16:00 I've known you for years so I look 48:17:00 forward to being able to chat and just 48:20:00 yeah me too and I can't wait to hug you 48:22:00 and Elijah at school next year all right 48:25:00 girl thank you thank you every day 48:28:00 take care

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